[Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel

Fri Apr 18 07:08:35 EDT 2008

Greetings to Yasin from the Cocks.  We knew him from our time in Indonesia.
Lynda

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From: springboard-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:springboard-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:56 AM
To: Springboard Dialogue
Subject: Re: [Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel

Thanks for the replies.  materials in Arabic from ica mena, from nagwa and
mohammed yasin and also from Gary Forbes have been quite helpful.  Today we
start some walkthrough and practice.  Will keep in touch.

Larry Philbrook <icalarry at ms69.hinet.net> wrote: 

Dear Jim

I am unsure about the word similar because that particular place and this
people have been through so much for so long I am sure patterns may be
deeper etc.  I do most of my work in translation and have for the past 31
years.  I have lived and worked in several Muslim environments including
Bangladesh, Malaysia, Kenya, India, Indonesia and the Philippines but only
once in Egypt and that was with a group if ICA colleagues.

In the Philippines dealing in areas with rebels etc. and other situations
the naming process becomes more difficult because so many areas have
consequences if you surface them in a particular way.  It takes the group
longer to build the trust and respect with each other to be able to talk
through things because the risk is literally very high.  Slowing down and
giving people more time to talk before to build trust and during the naming
process itself to allow people to explore the name that really holds the
authentic consensus.  Recognizing both because of translation and because of
cross cultural misinformation it is very hard for me to really understand
the significance of particular topics.  

Build your trust and community with your translators so they know you will
stop when they feel the need until you begin to trust yourself and your own
intuitions in the situations to push farther. This for me usually means time
in dialogue just talking or in silence around the question of what will help
this group or us work together more effectively. I use translators a lot and
by getting inside their understanding it allows me to expand my own
perception.  Not that they are always right but it gives me a closer set of
eyes to see through as well as my own. 

Use the translation time to learn from the groups spirit and energy where
they are. And to look for what are the indicators that they are ready to
push deeper or farther.

Ask the group but do not be concerned if they answer or not - they may not
yet have the eyes to see themselves but by asking it will open their
reflection and you can ask again later.

I hope this helps

With respect, Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: James  <mailto:jfwiegel at yahoo.com> Wiegel 
To: Springboard Dialogue <mailto:springboard at wedgeblade.net>  
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 03:14
Subject: [Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel

I am in Ramallah, Palestinian Territories, training 20 new facilitators to
facilitate a series of 40 input workshops involving around 1000 people to
develop proposals for the future of the Fateh movement and, afterwards, to
provide strategic planning facilitation to various units around Palestine.  

We are doing this in Arabic.  I am working with 2 people who have a good
sense of facilitation, but little experience with ToP, and all believe there
is something important in ToP methods that will help to develop a new, more
collaborative collective spirit that can revitalize Fateh on behalf of the
Palestinian people.

All are working hard, though especially the naming is very disturbing and
tense as they practice.  I believe this has to do both with the culture and
also with the pressure and stress related to the Israeli - Palestinian
conflict.

Any similar experiences?  suggestions?

Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

We are urging everyone to watch the Oprah show this evening and 
participate in the Eckhart Tolle dialogue with his book The New 
Earth. We are putting together a study/corporate reading methodology 
and we want to use this book to begin that process. We will be 
getting that out soon to everyone. It is well worth downloading the 
previous discussions. We are taking Joe Slicker's advice to integrate 
this example of new writing with some of our historical work on 
consciousness and spirit.

Grace & Peace,

Jack

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