[Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel

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Fri Apr 25 10:59:08 EDT 2008



>     I'm way behind in reading and responding to email, so this is probably too late to be helpful.  But realative to 
>     > All are working hard, though especially the naming is very disturbing and
>     > tense as they practice.  I believe this has to do both with the culture and
>     > also with the pressure and stress related to the Israeli - Palestinian
>     > conflict.
>     I've discovered that this part of our process goes so much easier if prior to reaching the naming step in the process you ask a question that requires the use of the participants imagination.  Pointing to a particular cluster  indicating that these cards all have to do with _______tag name_____, What does this practically look like? Or an imaginal question like, is it more like walking or running? After a few answers then read the cards and ask for what would hold the wisdom within them.
>     It is the creation of a practical or concrete picture that the word are pointing to that is important.  It seems to open the way for more creative thinking (rather than so called logical thinking.)  And this is more important than ever when the subject matter is linked to emotional points of view.  I don't really believe it is cultural.
>     When the imaginal question falls flat, something that makes the group laugh sometimes works when done just before you begin the naming process. 
>     Jean
>     > 
>     > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:14:17 -0700
>     > From: jfwiegel at yahoo.com
>     > To: springboard at wedgeblade.net
>     > Subject: [Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel
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>     > I am in Ramallah, Palestinian Territories, training 20 new facilitators to facilitate a series of 40 input workshops involving around 1000 people to develop proposals for the future of the Fateh movement and, afterwards, to provide strategic planning facilitation to various units around Palestine.       We are doing this in Arabic.  I am working with 2 people who have a good sense of facilitation, but little experience with ToP, and all believe there is something important in ToP methods that will help to develop a new, more collaborative collective spirit that can revitalize Fateh on behalf of the Palestinian people.     All are working hard, though especially the naming is very disturbing and tense as they practice.  I believe this has to do both with the culture and also with the pressure and stress related to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.     Any similar
>     >  experiences?  suggestions?
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>     > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:40:11 +0800
>     > From: Richard West <rwestica at ms69.hinet.net>
>     > Subject: Re: [Springboard] A call for advice for Wiegel, from Wiegel
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>     > Dear Jim,
>     > 
>     > I greatly appreciate Larry's reply.  He and I talked several hours 
>     > ago (this morning our time).
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>     > Two things I might add from our experience.  If all this is in your 
>     > experience also, great.  It's the best I have to offer.
>     > 
>     > First is that it is worth the time to bring the group, or at least 
>     > the sensitive and responsive ones in the group to the understanding 
>     > that things can't go on as they are.  If that can happen, then the 
>     > second becomes more possible.
>     > 
>     > Second is a deeply felt vision of possibility, re what we very much 
>     > want to have for ourselves and others in this situation.  There is 
>     > the bit about "What you are experiencing now is what you are 
>     > resonating with."  If you want something different, your resonance 
>     > needs to change.  Of as the HR head of P&G in India said in context 
>     > as he was describing the transformation process in their factory in 
>     > Bombay some 25 or more years ago, "We decided we were organized 
>     > perfectly to get the results we were getting.  If we wanted something 
>     > different, we needed to work (think and operate) a different way.
>     > 
>     > Third is the part of contradictions which focuses on "What is it that 
>     > is currently going on (with us) that has to change before our vision 
>     > can become realizeable?"
>     > 
>     > Great that you're taking this on.  We all need some more models of 
>     > what works in situations like this.
>     > 
>     > Best,
>     > 
>     > Dick
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