[Springboard] {Spam?} Salmon {Spam?} Alton a sexist? Nah!

Bill Salmon wsalmon at cox.net
Fri Jan 4 14:33:36 EST 2008


No, you'all need new batteries in your hearing aids. The claim was that Alton is "sexy." 
    Anyway, I can testify he never "knew:" Ms. Og O'knee. Take my word for it. Bill Salmon
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: W. J. 
  To: Springboard Dialogue 
  Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Springboard] {Spam?} Alton a sexist?


  Alton, you need to check that dictionary again, and spell it correctly this time. Misogyny refers to the deep-seated hatred of, or prejudice against, females. 
  Or, in the case of the O:E, a deeply male-oriented structural, linguistic, and imaginal bias.

  Marshall


  Richard Alton <dick_alton at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Dear Don, I had to look up that word- I should have done it the first time you used it..when I first saw misogynist I thought it meant polygamist...but now I discover it is one who hates marriage. Wow, I hope you do not tell Sally! We are spending the year looking into this arrangement and what it would mean for people of our age, especially as she has money and I have none...How can I hate marriage when I have been married twice for 25 years...I maybe a slow learner.
    Thanks for setting the record straight again.
    Dick


    Richard H.T. Alton International Consultants and Associates 'building global bridges' 166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N Oak Park, IL 60302 T:1.773.344.7172 richard.alton at gmail.com Don't let the fear of striking out hold you back Babe Ruth



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      To: springboard at wedgeblade.net
      Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:52:22 -0500
      From: dpelliott at aol.com
      Subject: [Springboard] {Spam?} Alton a sexist?

      Dick,

      I, for one, do not think you are a sexist.  Misogynist, perhaps, but sexist?

      Don


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Richard Alton <dick_alton at hotmail.com>
      To: Springboard Dialogue <springboard at wedgeblade.net>
      Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 7:55 pm
      Subject: Re: [Springboard] {Disarmed} Re: Fwd: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Where's the glue?


      This is a tough network! First, I was accused of being a racist and now a sexist! I learned my RS-1 at the feet of Kay Lush and Charles Lingo so one could see why I am easily confused.
      Dick


      Richard H.T. Alton International Consultants and Associates 'building global bridges' 166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N Oak Park, IL 60302 T:1.773.344.7172 richard.alton at gmail.com Don't let the fear of striking out hold you back Babe Ruth



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        To: springboard at wedgeblade.net
        Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:36:36 -0500
        From: marilyncrocker at juno.com
        Subject: Re: [Springboard] {Disarmed} Re: Fwd: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Where's the glue?


        Hey you dear "guys",

        This gal recalls we said that:
          a.. RSI (and all our methods that emerged from that understanding of TWLI) was branded on our eyelids; 
          b.. When we were deployed overseas, we needed to be able to teach RSI in an instant, even as we passed another person, while "swinging across the jungle on a vine." [I attribute this last image to Slicker]; 
          c.. "Cutting off the right arm" was what might be required in our time (the 20th C) to signify being the Church; and 
          d..  When all was finally at stake, we would, collectively, from every point across the globe, move backwards toward Chicago, brandishing our "swords," to protect our sacred place of Origin.
        So, the notch in the ear and the toe tag (for one who has always worn ear baubles of some kind, and painted her toes) are not as memorable.  But any common glue is good glue, I say.

        Peace and affection,

        Marilyn


        Marilyn R. Crocker, Ed.D
        Crocker & Associates, Inc.
        123 Sanborn Road
        West Newfield, ME 04095
        (207) 793-3711


        On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:18:06 -0600 Richard Alton <dick_alton at hotmail.com> writes:
          Wow, and I thought it was the notch in the ear! Can you return a notch?
          Dick


          Richard H.T. Alton International Consultants and Associates 'building global bridges' 166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N Oak Park, IL 60302 T:1.773.344.7172 richard.alton at gmail.com Don't let the fear of striking out hold you back Babe Ruth



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            From: icabombay at igc.org
            To: gharper1 at mindspring.com; springboard at wedgeblade.net
            Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:50:53 -0600
            Subject: Re: [Springboard] {Disarmed} Re: Fwd: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Where's the glue?

            It's the tag on the toe, the tag on the toe, just look! 


            Jack

            On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:48 PM, gharper1 at mindspring.com wrote:


              Damn--Afraid I Misunderstood! 

              I was so sure we said on the underside of our eyelids!  At any rate, that's where I had mine done.

              Can you return a tattoo?  Or exchange it?

              Gordon



                -----Original Message----- 
                From: James Wiegel 
                Sent: Jan 2, 2008 7:38 PM 
                To: Springboard Dialogue , Bill Salmon 
                Subject: [Springboard] Fwd: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Where's the glue? 


                Bill, thanks for sending the story.  It is great.  Were the questions helpful?

                For those of you who have not yet sent their stories, the link is:

                http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JIzLYa9COq5YFf_2fQyUpCHw_3d_3d

                On your question about glue, Bill -- someone sent out an email on this . . . and I lost it . . .

                Gordon, Jack,

                Do you have the email with the picture of the tattoo of the earthrise we are all engraving at the base of our spines??  Bill (see below) did not see that one.  I hurt my back over the holidays and cannot twist around to take a close enough picture of mine to pass the censors or post on my personal page.

                Wiegel (further comments below, way below)

                Bill Salmon <wsalmon at cox.net> wrote:
                  From: "Bill Salmon" <wsalmon at cox.net>
                  To: "Ecumenical Order" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
                  Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:10:53 -0600
                  Subject: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Where's the glue?


                  Colleagues:
                      Like most of you I'm frequently awakened to discover I've been thinking about the material out of Junaluska, and there seems to be something missing. So I share this reflection with you and, perhaps, you can set my mind at rest.
                      Rev. Joe Buckles (from Kansas) was responsible for my desire to join the Order. One day I visited with Joe in Chicago when everything was run out of our facilities at 5th City. He greeted me warmly and asked what I was doing now. I launched into my best presentation about establishing the Lake Ministries in the State of Kansas, and how deeply involved I was in recreational ministries.
                      Joe looked at me and replied, "Um-m, too bad your work is so reduced. The world needs your spiritual energy rather than just the state of Kansas." I laughed off his spiritual dart, but the truth was too clear to be ignored. Shortly after that both Beverly and I were on our way to the Ordered Life.
                      What was it that held us together? As I remember, one thing was the critique that we were Nothings in history because we made paramount The Great Awakening to live the humane life by creating structures for the Human Factor in Human Development. The point being, we became the nothings so that our secular-religious Christ could be everything.
                      We lived on behalf of those unable to, unwilling to, or in denial about, living the Awakened Life against the day when all the earth would live the awakened life  together.
                      For this purpose we used the traditions of the Christian Church as the theological glue to hold us as one. This was grounded in the Daily Office and the Sunday evening Common Meal.
                      Did anything like this get raised at Junaluska?
                      Maybe I've been reading too much of "Mother Teresa: Come Be My Light." Here is the living embodiment of Transparent Doing done in the midnight of her soul that experienced the entire absence of faith. She stood as the little Dutch Girl with her finger in the dyke holding back the destructive waters of social degradation against the day the Missionaries of Charity would have the structures in place to do what history needed them to do.
                       Maybe this is what our Order is experiencing since 1988? Certainly, this has been a dark night of our corporate soul, but I've lost sight of the transparent awakening event the world is waiting for.
                      The lesson I keep coming back to is the glue that held her together, and that of her sisters/brothers, and that kept her work going was the Eucharist. If, and when, the Order again finds its voice, what will be the Eucharist that sustains it?
                      Enlightenment please!
                      Bill Salmon

                  Jim Wiegel here.  This is a good question.  I have not read Mother Teresa's book.  Bill Bailey sent me a CD of their advent service and that was interesting, and I found an old book that had Chardin's Mass on the World in it, and that was even more interesting in this regard. 

                  I think we have not gotten further than to suggest putting personal pages on the repository web site as a sign that you acknowledge the declaration that was drafted. (That is, in addition to the tattoo)



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