[Springboard] Looks like the Study group on The Limits To Power is a go

Thu Nov 6 10:33:20 EST 2008

Hi Jim

Just checking in. I have ordered the book.

On seeing what we are doing, the only thing I am really familiar with is
Go-to-meeting, a commercial service.

My company uses this extensively to do demos of our product to clients.

We also use it internally to use a PowerPoint of any other document to
record what we are discussing as we go.

We only need an account membership and a person to host each session. The
host role can be passed around.

M. George Walters

NetSuite <http://www.netsuite.com?partner=713894>  Solution Provider

EBS-RAD LLC <http://www.performsoft.com> 

4240 Sandy Shores Dr

Lutz, FL 33558

USA

Tel: 813-948-7267

Mob: 813-505-9041

Fax: 813-948-4167

Em: m.george.walters at verizon.net

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From: springboard-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:springboard-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 08:59
To: Springboard Dialogue; Dialogue List Serve; Colleague Dialogue
Subject: [Springboard] Looks like the Study group on The Limits To Power is
a go

Jack Gilles suggested we do the study using the Springboard Dialogue list
serve.  It was sort of set up for this kind of thing and there is little
general traffic on it.  If you need to join it, go to www.wedgeblade.net
<http://www.wedgeblade.net/>  and cursor down to list serves and click on
the Springboard Listserv and follow the instructions to join.  I trust Tim
Wegner and Gordon Harper will oblige.  While there, browse at some of the
other resources available.

Questions:  Jim Wiegel jfwiegel at yahoo.com

I am willing to facilitate the first week.  You have to get access to the
book.  Starting on Sunday evening, November 9, I will be sending out
questions and comments and will be available at least once a day to respond,
provoke, keep the conversation going.  

I will also host a conference call on Wednesday, November 12.  I am thinking
around 6 pm local time here in Phoenix, for 1 hour.  The call number is
269-320-8400        .and the Participant Access Code is 881373#

On the call, ideally one person would take each of the sections we are
looking at and give an overview and leading questions (what does it SAY?
what does it MEAN? where have you EXPERIENCED this? what are IMPLICATIONS or
applications?).  I can try to record it so others can listen in (with lots
of luck)

Maybe Gordon or George or someone can work out how we can also chat and go
to a wiki or something to see what we are doing. . . 

Hopefully, one of you will step up to that role in each succeeding week.

First week 11/10 ff Introduction:  War Without Exits and 1.  The Crisis of
Profligacy

Second Week 11/17 ff 2.  The Political Crisis

Third Week 11/24 ff 3.  The Military Crisis

Fourth Week 12/1  Conclusion:  The Limits of Power

If one (or 2) of us took each section and sort of took responsibility for
getting a conversation / discussion / whatever going on the list serves for
that week and checking in and keeping it going, Perhaps on Wednesday night,
(12th, 19th, 26th, 3rd) we could set a time and do a conference call.  My
free conference call number has lots of slots and would only cost a long
distance call (or a skype call) and it also has a recording function, so we
could record the seminar and make it available for others to listen in --
not to the level of Oprah's study of Tolle, but  . . 

What do you think?

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One great, strong, unselfish soul in every community could actually redeem
the world. Elbert Hubbard

--- On Sat, 11/1/08, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Dialogue] Looking to Tuesday . . .
To: "Springboard Dialogue" <springboard at wedgeblade.net>, "Dialogue List
Serve" <Dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 7:40 AM

"Yet to imagine that installing a particular individual in the Oval Office
will produce decisive action on any of these fronts (terrorism and nuclear
weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide and disease) is to succomb to
the grandest delusion of all.  The quadrennial ritual of electing (or
reelecting) a president is not an exercise in promoting change, regardless
of what candidates may claim and ordinary voters believe.  The real aim is
to ensure continuity, to keep intact the institutions and arrangements that
define present-day Washington."  Andrew J. Bacevich, The Limits of Power, p.
171.

"If you think the City of Chicago is going to elect a new mayor every 4
years and he is going to come out here and do your work for you, you're
wrong.  If this community is going to be different it will be because of
you.  You're going to have to do it yourself"  Verdell Trice, paraphrased
from the Fifth City video.

hmmm . . . .

I just finished reading The Limits of Power.  Anyone interested in forming a
discussion group to study it?

401 North Beverly Way 
Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
 <skype:+16239368671?origin=IETB>  +1 623-936-8671 
 <skype:+16233633277?origin=IETB>  +1 623-363-3277 
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One great, strong, unselfish soul in every community could actually redeem
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