[Springboard] LIMITS TO POWER STUDY -- Prep for the SECOND phone call

[George Holcombe]

Sorry, but I'm working during the call time.  To add my other 2¢, on  
the automobiles and other choices going green, living simply, etc.  I  
would imagine that if we are going to move to a green culture and cut  
back on all our stuff, it will still cost us.  Autos that get 33 mpg  
will be like Model T's and the Prius (I have one, I can get between  
48-52 mpg) it will not be much better, when you have plug-ins getting  
100+ mpg (and they already exist), and other alternative fuels (I'm  
told some of the diesels in Europe already average 60 mpg).  The same  
will be true with electronic equipment, which will not use toxic  
materials and buildings and cities on new energy grids.  We already  
have solar and wind powered houses in Austin, even in villages in  
Africa.  I think Bacevich is right about the end of American  
Excetionalism, and it is leading to a whole new world.  The hardest  
part is going to be for Americans to get over it and get with it.

George Holcombe
14900 Yellowleaf Tr.
Austin, TX 78728
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Mobile 512/294-5952
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On Nov 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM, James Wiegel wrote:

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> WEDNESDAY CALLS
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> I will also host a conference call on Wednesday, November 19.  I am  
> thinking around 6 pm local time here in Phoenix , for 1 hour.  The  
> call number is                  269-320-8400          .and the  
> Participant Access Code is 881373#
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> On the call, after some introductions and stuff,
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> LET'S GET Joe Crocker and Gordon Harper to walk us through what  
> Bacevich means by "American Exceptionalism"
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> Then perhaps DAVID ZAHRT can walk through the chart of Chapter One  
> to see where we need more depth drilling.
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> Next, I would like to follow on KAREN BUENO and GEORGE HOLCOMBE and  
> CYNTHIA VANCE's conversation:  where do we experience this, are  
> caught in it
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> at the NATIONAL /GLOBAL  level -- implications for the new  
> administration
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> at the HOUSEHOLD level -- implications for our individual and family  
> life styles
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> at the LOCAL / REGIONAL level -- meanings for the neighborhoods and  
> cities where we live
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> at the PROFESSIONAL level -- many of us are still active in the work  
> place -- what are the implications for us in our work?
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> at the ORGANIZATIONAL level -- what institutions and organizations  
> are somehow significant in holding this profligacy in being?  in  
> moving us as a people beyond it?
>
> Pushing further to implications, we might talk a bit about how this  
> touches our collegiality and what we may have in common.
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>  WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19 CALL.  6 pm Mountain Standard Time  (see  
> number above)
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> We are studying FIVE SECTIONS:  The introduction, War Without Exits  
> and the 4 section of Chapter One
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> THE CRISIS OF PROFLIGACY
> Ø       Power and Abundance (my title)
> Ø       Not Less, But More
> Ø       Taking the Plunge
> Ø       American Freedom, Iraqi Freedom
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> I will again try to record the call, though I am teaching all day  
> and will come in at the last minute.
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>
> FOR NEXT WEEK, Who is willing to guide us through Chapter Two??
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> We'll keep the call to an hour, though if people want to hang on  
> after they can.
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> See you tomorrow . . .
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