[Springboard] Fw: Re: LISTEN IN: Hot, Flat, Crowded. Study #6 Wednesday. ch. 16-17 US

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Wed Feb 18 21:28:00 EST 2009








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Dick West's Notes on Chapters 16 and 17
 
HOT FLAT AND CROWDED, CHAPTERS 16 AND 17   - Dick West brief - 16 Feb 09 
  
CH 16 - CHINA FOR A DAY (BUT NOT FOR TWO) 
  
A  Political Maneuvering and Protectionism 
1 So much for good will in getting oil prices reduced 171 
2 Directives from the top down don’t take in America , they do in China 372 
3 Chi Govt decrees:  plastic bags, unleaded gas out in 2 yrs (in US 32 yrs to do, Chi planted fuel stds for cars, 2 yrs) 373 
4 Worst part of our democracy, inability to make big decisions in peacetime 374 
5 US primed for with necessary ingredients for green take off, but govt has not shaped the market 374 
6 25 world-wide college teams working on a car for 200 mpg (imitate the race to the moon) Political system and political players are busy “opposing each other), Dirty Fuels Systems folks protect their turf 375 
7 DFS keep ecological truth from being told, have now, “the sum of all lobbies,” energy politics, not energy policy 376 
8 Political swing states have in common, coal?  Midwest is into biofuels...  same blockage  376 
9 Confusing what is necessary (continuing to burn coal for some time) with what is preferable, clean energy 377 
10 Clean coal?  Coal ain’t clean; Coal is deadly... 
  
B  Confusing the Issues about Energy 
1 Lots of money spent to protect energy interests 378 
2 Money cut out of Federal budget for clean energy incentives while spending on nuclear energy and domestic oil drilling 379 
3 Wind power - highly capital intensive, banks not willing to lend without some govt assurances 379 
4 Billions of dollars of subsidies to fossil fuel and nuclear industries 379 
5 japan’s solar investments guaranteed for 12 years, Germany ’s for 20 years  380 
6 Eur solar mfgr does innovations in Europe, blue collar assembly in US, makes US the new India  380 
7 Pooling energy policy into a omnibus appropriations bill which is manipulated for Congressional district projects (read pork barrel) 381 
8 Have to conclude that US has no sense of urgency re energy research...  sleepwalking into the future  382 
9 Need to fund a hundred ideas to find one which will become the next Google, again Federal funding is key, venture capitalists don’t fund basic research 383 
10 Real breakthroughs are going to be found in intersections of specialties, so want a lot of people in a lot of disciplines working on the problem  384 
  
C First Solar Inc and American Dithering 
1 Their great success story is really a German success story 387 
2 Feed-in law, fixed by national law for 20 years 389 
3 Meanwhile in American, the market was totally fragmented 390 
4 Germany- long term contracts with progressive pricing, so loan repayment is assured  390 
5 Between 2006 and 2008 First Solar ‘s mkt capitalization from 1.5 B$ to 20 B$, meanwhile in America renewable energy caught up in political maneuvering, “A crisis is a terrible thing to waste!” 
6 Eleven years to fully connect one wind farm 393 
7 Four our generation, our kids at age 50 will look back and say, “What were they thinking?” Had the money, technology, why so slow...  “What were you doing?” 
  
========================================== 
  
CHAPTER 17  A DEMOCRATIC CHINA OR A BANANA REPUBLIC 
  
A  What It Will Take 
1 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, Brazil, 12 year old girl from Canada...  “You must change your ways!” 395 
2 You are what you do, not what you say! 
3 Pay attention and personally lead as environmentally sustainable life as you can  397 
3 It is more important to change your leaders than your light bulbs, leaders write the rules  397 
4 Civil Rights Movement - About changing laws so that no one had an option to discriminate  398 
5 “I Have a Dream” speech   -  inspiration (so activism and inspiration)  398 
6 Made the painful task of changing the race laws preferable to the pain of doing nothing  399 
7 Green is still more option than necessity  399 
8 As long as the public signals politicians that it’s only interested in 205 easy ways to go green, no ne is going to propose the one or two hard ways that could actually make a difference  400 
9 In the industry we are dealing with veteran inside-Washington players  400 
10 Use the same strategy that defeated the cigarette companies - Vilify the bad actors and show them a different pathway (to making money)  401 
  

 
B Mobilization, Not More of the Same 
1 The people most affected aren’t born yet (let alone vote)   403 
2 Climate change puts the present vs the future... Problem is the future can’t organize  403 
3 Need a similar mobilization as WW II (Rosie the Riveter, and victory gardens)  403 
4 Need the mobilization to prevent a Pearl Harbor that we think will happen  403 
5 This generation needs to be the Re-generation, identified not by age but by outlook 404 
6 Need leaders who can shape issues so people understand why ignoring them is such a threat and why rising to them is such an opportunity 405 
7 Democracy is short term (2,4,6 year cycles) 
8 BANANA = build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything 406 
9 Agencies operate so as to make inaction easy and transformational action almost impossible 408 
10 President needs to be a CEO - Chief Energy Officer 408 
11If you view green as a cost, is is a failure...  409 
12 Bees, ants and termites though not smart individually, display great intelligence collectively, people seem to be just the opposite  411 
13 We have exactly enough time - starting now  412 


Jim Wiegel

The essence of ultimate decision remains impenetrable to the observer - often, indeed, to the decider himself (...) There will always be the dark and tangled stretches in the decision-making process - mysterious even to those who may be intimately involved. John F. Kennedy

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--- On Mon, 2/16/09, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LISTEN IN: Hot, Flat, Crowded. Study #6 Wednesday. ch. 16-17 US
To: "Len Hockely" <lenh at efn.org>, "Robert Schafer" <resassociates at hotmail.com>, "Karen Snyder" <snyder at consultmillennia.com>, "ROBERT A MURIEL GRIFFIN" <ramgriffin at msn.com>
Cc: "Ellen and David Rebstock" <grapevin at comcast.net>, "David Dunn" <icadunn at igc.org>, "jJudith Wiegel" <judithwiegel at yahoo.com>, "DavidLin Zahrt" <ch.bnb at pionet.net>, "Bob & Cynthia Vance" <FacilitationFla at aol.com>, "DavidLin Zahrt" <chbnb at netins.net>, "Wilson Priscilla" <wilson.priscilla at gmail.com>, "Richard West" <rwestica at gmail.com>, "Joe Marilyn Crocker" <jcrocker at aol.com>, "darrell walker" <darrell66 at earthlink.net>, "M George Walters" <M.George.Walters at Verizon.net>, "Gordon Harper" <gharper1 at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 11:24 AM

A gift from Richard West.  Talk on Wednesday??  6 pm Mountain Standard Time.

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Jim Wiegel

The essence of ultimate decision remains impenetrable to the observer - often,
indeed, to the decider himself (...) There will always be the dark and tangled
stretches in the decision-making process - mysterious even to those who may be
intimately involved.   John F. Kennedy

401 North Beverly Way   
Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
+1  623-936-8671
+1  623-363-3277
   jfwiegel at yahoo.com
   www.partnersinparticipation.com


--- On Wed, 2/11/09, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LISTEN IN:  Hot, Flat, Crowded.  Study #5 Wednesday.  ch. 15 
China
> To: "Len Hockely" <lenh at efn.org>, "Robert
Schafer" <resassociates at hotmail.com>, "Karen Snyder"
<snyder at consultmillennia.com>, "ROBERT A MURIEL GRIFFIN"
<ramgriffin at msn.com>
> Cc: "Ellen and David Rebstock" <grapevin at comcast.net>,
"David Dunn" <icadunn at igc.org>, "jJudith Wiegel"
<judithwiegel at yahoo.com>, "DavidLin Zahrt"
<ch.bnb at pionet.net>, "Bob & Cynthia Vance"
<FacilitationFla at aol.com>, "DavidLin Zahrt"
<chbnb at netins.net>, "Wilson Priscilla"
<wilson.priscilla at gmail.com>, "Richard West"
<rwestica at gmail.com>, "Joe Marilyn Crocker"
<jcrocker at aol.com>, "darrell walker"
<darrell66 at earthlink.net>, "M George Walters"
<M.George.Walters at Verizon.net>, "Gordon Harper"
<gharper1 at gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 8:57 PM
> Listen to tonights Recorded Study from the Phone...
> 
> Dial - (269) 320-8499 
> Enter Access Code - 881373#
>  
> Jim Wiegel
> 
> The essence of ultimate decision remains impenetrable to
> the observer - often, indeed, to the decider himself (...)
> There will always be the dark and tangled stretches in the
> decision-making process - mysterious even to those who may
> be intimately involved.   John F. Kennedy
> 
> 401 North Beverly Way   
> Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
> +1  623-936-8671
> +1  623-363-3277
>    jfwiegel at yahoo.com
>    www.partnersinparticipation.com


      



      
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