[Springboard] Fwd: Springboard Listserv

Jack Gilles icabombay at igc.org
Wed Apr 13 15:00:21 CDT 2011

Dear Colleagues,

You'll see by the note below from Tim Wegner to Gordon Harper and Gordon's reply on the question of continuing this list serve.  I don't want to make the decision alone as it has been for all of us and I think we need to see what the consensus is among us.  Here is my reply to Gordon's email.


The Springboard list serve was set up after our initial Denver meeting some years ago to serve not only those present, but all who agreed with the premise that we saw ourselves as a continuation of our individual decisions to be the Order.  That was not about the continuation of the form of The Order Ecumenical, but rather our decision to be the Order regardless of there being a form or not.  It was also a recognition that many other people had made a similar life decision, but did not have a body to join, just a life commitment to be of service to Those Who Care.  I knew of several people in India who fit that description who had never encountered the OE (except through my and Judy's lives), and I added them to the list.

The second reality was that we knew from past experience that although there is a list serve called "Order Ecumenical" for those who once were in the Order, not everyone who is on that list serve still considers themselves to still be "the Order" and are not interested in the things we were discussing on the Springboard list and what we were meeting about.  So we didn't want to impose our work and thinking on that list serve.

Now it is true that we haven't met for a couple of years and much of the work we talked about is still to be done.  But there is work going on, papers being written and books being published (Resurgence Publishing was an idea that came from a Springboard meeting in Texas).  There are now new sites and new technologies for our discussions that we didn't have in years past.  One of these is Michael May's <www.Strorywarrior.net> which has some great stuff on it.

Tim mentions the $48 fee for maintaining the list serve and I would be glad to pick that up, no problem.  My personal choice is to keep it a while longer and see if it can serve us as we continue to explore the role and function of a diaspora Order.  But if you feel it no longer serves our need then we can close it up.



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gordon Harper <gharper1 at mindspring.com>
> Date: April 12, 2011 11:40:16 PM CDT
> To: Tim Wegner <twegner at swbell.net>, Len Hockley <lenh at efn.org>
> Cc: Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org>
> Subject: Springboard Listserv
> Tim --
> I copying this to Len and Jack for their thoughts as well (see Tim's note below).
> It does seem an appropriate moment to raise the question.  The Springboard crowd has not met or functioned as such for a couple years, and I suspect (you could confirm this) that everyone on it is on either OE or Dialogue.  Quite often, colleagues will send identical notes to all three lists, with the Springboard one bouncing because they are not on it.  Then a note comes to me for a decision about it.  (I generally have not authorized it to go out yet again to the same people.)
> David Dunn also set up a Ning site for Springboarders to post and exchange stuff after one of our last meetings, and I'm not sure of its status at present.  Just as technology continues to be a moving target, our group continues to experiment with what seems promising at the moment.  Some redundancy is probably a good thing; the question is how much.  
> This whole arena--including the question of setting up some ongoing funding system--seems to be one the larger "we" should explore around next year's planned celebrative 50 states / 50 events / 50 years blowout on the future of ICA.  Not that I'm         against you paying for all this, Tim, but you are quite right that it's not a long-term model, even if you keep finding a chair when the music stops.
> So, to stop rambling, I don't have a clear rationale for continuing the list.  Could we make its content available in some archival form if we ditch it?  Len, Jack, chime in --
> Gordon
> Tim Wegner
>  to me
> show details Apr 9 (3 days ago)               
> Gordon,
> Springboard hasn't been active lately. Is it still needed? Our
> account comes due May 1st. Springboard only costs $48 dollars extra,
> but I thought I'd ask so the money isn't wasted.
> Our web hosting accounting account comes with two mailing lists. OE
> is still reasonably active, although I haven't checked to see how
> many messages duplicate dialogue. But the two list memberships are
> not the same, and some people don't seem to like dialogue.
> If you do want to keep springboard, maybe the $48 should be built
> into the finances of the next meeting. Not that I mind paying, though
> I might change my mind after retiring. So far I am going from one
> layoff date to the next, having survived them all so far :-)
> The amounts for hosting are small enough we could easily cover with
> contributions. So far I have been more willing to pay myself than to
> organize a payment system, though the latter might be better
> symbolically.
> Thanks,
> Tim

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