[Dialogue] Re: Our relationship to Ken Wilbur

[ken whitney]

Thanks Wayne.  My favorite of Wilbur's books is A Sociable God, which we read in
Tonga in the mid 80's, and which I have always found to be the most helpful in
understanding other people's spiritual journey, to say nothing about my own.
However, I do not experiene that competitive, adversarial, militaristic imagery
has gone the way of the dodo bird just yet.  When you have been confronted at the
door of a home you have been invited to visit by the host asking if you personally
have been saved by Jesus Christ, you realize that that imagery has not gone as far
away as you might hope.  Clare

Wayne Nelson wrote:

> "aiseayew" wrote:
> > As often happens (considering the group was and has always been microcosmic)
> > individuals on each pole would use his work to "beat up" on those who took
> > the other position.  ("You wouldn't say that if you had journeyed far
> > enough, i.e., as far as I have, along the spectrum of consciousness.)
>
> The ". . .just 10 more (spiritual) pushups" and "I'm further along the
> journey than you" approach to spirituality went out and away with
> competitive, adversarial, militaristic imagery, telling fibs about project
> and fund raising successes and comparing the sizes of intimate body parts.
> Imagine saying, "I can meditate longer than you." LMAO
>
> It's a little like competitive yoga. What's the point? You are working with
> yourself.
>
> If you have to say to are - even in subtle ways and especially in sneaky
> ways - you are definitely not - probably not even on the same part of the
> path - a different place. Not bad or less or weaker - just in a very
> different place.
>
> Wayne
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