[Dialogue] A powerful commentary from Howard Zinn

[Karl Hess]

AD 325 was when the church went from being oppressed to being oppressor.

You might find the current movie about the life of Dietrich 
Bonhoeffer informative.

Karl

>My church history is vacant, so 325ad is not on my radar.  However, 
>it seems to me that the confessing church in Germany in the early 
>20th century took a position, energized its local congregations, and 
>led the way in repudiating the facist regimes.
>
>I think the church energized local congregations in the US during 
>the civil rights movement, and led churchmen into confrontation and 
>political pursuasion.
>
>On the episcopal US front, it seems to me that the local 
>congregations have all given their proxies and a few bucks to the 
>denominational bodies.  These bodies don't seem to get much out of 
>the troops.
>
>In a message dated 2/11/2005 9:10:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, Karl 
>Hess <khess at apk.net> writes:
>
>>Hasn't it been this way since AD 325?
>>Karl
>>
>>>I would like to know how others feel about the role of the local
>>>congregaton (not the broader church bodies)in changing hearts and
>>>minds concerning the role of our nation in bringing forth justice in
>>>this world.
>>>
>>>I find a great reluctance in my local church to preach about or
>>>organize around any activity that in any way challenges the
>>>establishment.
>>>
>>>It is fine to offer direction on how one lives his/her individual
>>>life, yet it seems that great movements in history (including the
>>>one Jesus' death initiated) have taken organizational positions of
>>>leadership in advocating justice.
>>>
>>>What has been your experience?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dick Kroeger
>>>
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>
>--
>Dick Kroeger
>
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