[Dialogue] AD 325 - the church and Constantine

[Harry Wainwright]

Colleagues,

A little more information is available!  Here are some links:

http://www.piar.hu/councils/ecum01.htm
http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/NICAEA1.HTM
http://www.thegreatestpuzzle.com/325j1.htm

Peace,
Harry

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[mailto:Dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net]On Behalf Of Karl Hess
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:06 PM
To: Colleague Dialogue
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] A powerful commentary from Howard Zinn

AD 325 was when the church went from being oppressed to being oppressor.

You might find the current movie about the life of Dietrich
Bonhoeffer informative.

Karl

>My church history is vacant, so 325ad is not on my radar.  However,
>it seems to me that the confessing church in Germany in the early
>20th century took a position, energized its local congregations, and
>led the way in repudiating the facist regimes.
>
>I think the church energized local congregations in the US during
>the civil rights movement, and led churchmen into confrontation and
>political pursuasion.
>
>On the episcopal US front, it seems to me that the local
>congregations have all given their proxies and a few bucks to the
>denominational bodies.  These bodies don't seem to get much out of
>the troops.
>
>In a message dated 2/11/2005 9:10:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, Karl
>Hess <khess at apk.net> writes:
>
>>Hasn't it been this way since AD 325?
>>Karl
>>
>>>I would like to know how others feel about the role of the local
>>>congregaton (not the broader church bodies)in changing hearts and
>>>minds concerning the role of our nation in bringing forth justice in
>>>this world.
>>>
>>>I find a great reluctance in my local church to preach about or
>>>organize around any activity that in any way challenges the
>>>establishment.
>>>
>>>It is fine to offer direction on how one lives his/her individual
>>>life, yet it seems that great movements in history (including the
>>>one Jesus' death initiated) have taken organizational positions of
>>>leadership in advocating justice.
>>>
>>>What has been your experience?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Dick Kroeger
>>>