[Dialogue] wedgeblade in Apple ad

[Marge Philbrook]

Who knows the name of the theologian who did the paper we studied with the
image of the "no longer and the not yet" as the role of the church?  I'll
like to try to find it in the archives if you know the author's name.  Marge
Phibrook

On 12/6/06, Adam Thomson <dmtmsn at language.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>  From Adam Thomson, Dover England
>
> My recollection says that 1972 indeed was the year of the turn symbol, and
> a lot else besides.
>
> I was fresh out of the '72 Academy and was attending one of Joe's "Room E"
> gatherings when he laid out exactly what Wiegel referred to in his posting
> on this. The memory is still vivid.
>
> Adam
>
> At 22:50 05/12/2006, you wrote:
>
> The wedgeblade was the central image of the church
> lecture in 1964--probably earlier. The turn symbol, as
> Jim describes it came along with the turn to the
> world--1972?
>
> Doris Hahn
> --- James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, it is the anarchist symbol, much more prevalent
> > in Europe, there have been some conversations over
> > the years that ICA should change its logo because of
> > those associations.  Technically, that one with the
> > wedge and the circle split in half is the "turn
> > symbol" which was created after the summer of 1971
> > in reflection on the movie "Little Big Man" and as
> > an attempt to state the dynamics of social change:
> > Pro establishment, Dis establishment (the 2 halves
> > of the circle) and Trans establishment, the wedge,
> > bringing together pro and dis and moving them
> > forward.
> >
> >   The wedge blade was the Ecumenical Institute
> > symbol which old timers remember from the front of
> > room A on the west side and was the main teaching
> > image for the church lecture for the church as
> > social pioneer -- in that sense standing between the
> > no longer and the not yet, laying down your life on
> > behalf of all, or something like that.
> >
> >   As my fading memory recalls, Gene Marshall's group
> > in Summer 71 had a hand in developing that image.
> >
> >
> > Jim Wiegel
> > 401 North Beverly Way   Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
> > +1  623-936-8671   jfwiegel at yahoo.com
> >
> > Try something new and different.  You will like the
> > results.
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> > 10/16/06
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