[Dialogue] {Disarmed} Re: Secondary Ethics

Wed Aug 22 23:31:21 EDT 2007

The categories of consensus, children and youth, and development spring to  
mind.  

Near the end of our time in Cannonball, the project was routinely being  used 
as a ponzi scheme for fund raising.  Necessary deed- I don't think  so.

Guantanamo-like student house stories seem to be born out by the witness of  
the inmates.  Emerging generation or submerging generation.

Consensus certainly did not reside anywhere outside of room E, and usually  
started and stopped in JWM's cube.

Integrity is integrity, period.  You know it when you see the actors  
standing tall, and inspiring others to stand with them.  In an  organization, it only 
takes a few rotten pieces of fruit to jeopardize the whole  crop.  The 
necessary culling did not occur, and the God of History rendered  judgement.

Dick Kroeger

In a message dated 8/22/2007 9:35:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
marilyncrocker at juno.com writes:

To: _dialogue at wedgeblade.net_ (mailto:dialogue at wedgeblade.net) 
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:07:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] {Disarmed} Re:  Secondary  Ethics

Dick et al,

My understanding of "secondary" integrity (as opposed to the rules,  regs and 
legalisms that,for me, represent "primary" integrity) is that  which guides 
one's actions in accord with the "necessary deed" -- the  freely responsible 
action (cf Bonhoeffer) which I've never found is a  simplistic cop out, but 
rather the result of complex, prayer filled  discernment.

I would be interested to know more about your thinking, Dick, that led  you 
to conclude this was our movement's most serious perversion.

With appreciation for the resources you bring to our "virtual" collegium  
room table,

Marilyn

Marilyn R. Crocker, Ed.D
Crocker & Associates, Inc.
123 Sanborn  Road
West Newfield, ME 04095
(207) 793-3711

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:23:34 EDT _KroegerD at aol.com_ (mailto:KroegerD at aol.com) 
 writes:

Here is a link to the subject not from the spirit movement.
_http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Model-of-Ethics-for-Womens-Development&id=654252_

(http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Model-of-Ethics-for-Womens-Development&id=654252) 

On golden pathways a google search delivered only a speech by Mathews  in 
Korea.  ( below )

good luck with that!!

In my words, secondary integrity means doing whatever is necessary,  telling 
story ( even if it is totally untrue) in order to ger 'er  done.  In my 
opinion, it was our movement's most serious perversion,  and ultimately did in the 
spirit movement as an organization.

Dick Kroeger

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