[Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's

Wed Aug 29 04:51:43 EDT 2007

Thanks for the update, Marshall. It will be great to have that DVD 
available. I still recall the event when you showed the rough cuts of it in 
Kemper -- to a standing ovation. And Fanfare for the Common Man has never 
been the same!

John

At 11:17 PM 8/28/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>Yes, Addi, I am.
>
>And, BTW, soon we're all gonna be able to revisit Sudtonggan again, as 
>well Bayad, Kawangware, Maliwada, Oyubari, Ijede, Kwangyung, Hai Ou, and 
>many of the other HDP's. And yes, we'll be able to see those wells gushing 
>life-giving clean water. For real.
>
>A little bird told me that ICAI is gonna re-release The World of Human 
>Development on DVD this year, exactly thirty years after it was shot. So 
>we can all take a new look.
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>And I can't wait.
>"You've got to give a little, take a little,
>And let your poor heart break a little,
>That's the story of, that's the glory of Love."
>
>That's the story of, that's the glory of...
>Secondary Integrity!
>
>Marshall
>
>"In 1952 they ranked me number five!"
>"Mountain Rivera was no punk. Mountain Rivera was almost the Heavyweight 
>Champion of the World!"
>
>
>Adelbert Batica <abatica at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Rev. Jones -
>
>Are you doing theology again? Heh, heh, heh! These are topnotch
>"pedagogical illustrations", though. And when did this pugilist make that
>bold claim, about not "taking a dive" - in 1952? Why even brag about not
>taking a dive - What was his problem, anyway?
>
>And your "Professor Hill", did he teach at the "Gary, Indiana Conservatory
>of Music"? Yeah, you do have a way with cinema as a "tool". "Of all the
>bars and the gin joints in all the world..." - you have to delve into this
>God-thing right here.
>
>Alright, Primary and Secondary "integrity". But you know, I still struggle
>with these categories, like Randy and Kroeger, because aside from doing
>development - I was up to my eyeballs in HDP. And in Sudtonggan, I
>sometimes whirled and twirled just thinking about the many stories being
>told about the many miracles we were performing in that poor, desolate
>village. The Community Health Clinic is the image that sticks in my mind.
>Because...God only knows how many times we "sold" that Clinic to how many
>donors. Luckily enough for us - we didn't have to "invent" a well, because
>as far as water was concerned - like Moses... we could literally draw water
>from limestone rock. No sweat, no kidding. And the water tasted just like
>spring water. We knew early on that that was a commodity we couldn't "sell"
>to any prospective donor.
>
>Maybe I set aside that Primary and Secondary stuff as soon as I was in the
>Land of the Incas, to begin working in Azpitia. Perhaps because I knew I
>didn't have to invent stories, but instead focused on "Veritas". No, there
>was no need to "create a story" for the Jesuits - they were willing to help
>out and give us a chance. But perhaps my wonder of wonders at the time was
>(and this is perhaps where that Primary and Secondary thing steps in) - my
>willingness to sit down with the Padres de Opus Dei, the Spaniards who had
>jurisdiction over the parish, Azpitia's church included. The Jesuits did
>warn me about not having anything to do with Opus Dei, but I thought at that
>point that, at least every once in while - "integrity", ha, ha, ha - could
>be "set aside" by breaking bread with them. After all, isn't there
>something about "The Unity of Opposites"? When Left and Right come together
>- a creative force is released. Opus Dei gave us permission to use the
>church building for meetings and other project-related activities. The
>other thing Opus Dei gave me permission to do was...officiate at some
>funerals when no priest was available. It was actually a good feeling, to
>do the "send-out" (and fall back on my Latin every now and then, which the
>more conservative congregation just loved!) "De profundis clamavi ad te,
>Domine, Domine exaude vocem meam..."
>
>Yes, sometimes we had to make hard decisions, and I can't exactly describe
>the gut-wrenching feeling of having to stand in radical ambiguity. And feel
>the pain. And have to go through the Dark Night. Doubt myself, blame God,
>blame the world. The Dark Night. We all have to experience the Dark Night,
>it's part of our humanity. That the Christ figure would dare demand: "Take
>this cup away from me..." is proof enough of his humanity. And the world
>will never be the same.
>
>What a great revelation.
>
>
>
>Addi Batica
>
>P.S. "I'm just shocked, shocked to know that gambling is going on here!"
>
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>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "W. J."
>Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue
>To: oe at wedgeblade.net, dialogue at wedgeblade.net
>Subject: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in the movies
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:12:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Just to stir the pot a little bit more (y'know it's hard to resist!):
>
>There are two movie characters that come to mind in trying to understand
>Primary and Secondary Integrity.
>
>One uttered the famous line: "One hundred eleven fights and never took a
>dive!" That for me is a good example of Primary Integrity that, in the
>context/situation of the film, gets transformed. Ten points if you can guess
>the film title.
>
>The other guy is Professor Harold Hill. Seventy-six extra points if you
>can name the title. Hint: he's a major scam artist. Second hint: it's a
>musical!
>
>Basically Harold just wants to get laid, get paid, and hop the last
>freight train outa town before he's tarred and feathered. (I know, it's
>coming, let me think a sec!)
>
>But here's what's amazing about the movie. Despite all his bad
>intentions, the town gets permanently transformed, and Harold gets caught up
>in a brand new reality (for him) and blows his exit.
>
>So what's really going on here? You could say the whole town was
>imprisoned by their xenophobia (google it) and gossip ("Pick pick pick, talk
>a lot, pick a little more!").
>
>And along comes this seductive, nasty guy whose only ethic is to prey on
>the town's vulnerability (fear of "the telltale signs of corruption" and
>appetite for a larger vision of something), screw 'em financially, and leave
>'em lying in their dust and disappointment.
>
>But he believes in something, however impossible, reduced, or perverted
>("I always think there's a band, kid.") And something finally moves him to
>tell little Winthrop (Ron Howard) the truth: yes, he's a liar, and no, he
>can't read music (a very BIG hint!).
>
>So what's this got to do with US? With Town Meetings all over Iowa
>(hint!) and our global Band of Human Development Projects?
>
>Well, we did borrow from this movie a song for the Gibson HDP, a rewrite
>of 'Lyda Rose' (HUGE hint!). And when the school board stopped squabbling,
>learned to harmonize, and sang 'Lyda Rose'...sheer Spirit began to break
>loose and transform everything.
>
>So you could say that miracles happened despite Professor Hill's very
>shady version of Secondary Integrity.
>
>Roman Catholic theology has a very interesting view of this. Even the
>Pope understands that he doesn't have to be a "good guy" to be the
>Pope--that is, to be an effective mediator of divine grace. A "bad"
>priest--a pederast, for example--is just as effective as a saint in bringing
>people into communion with the divine in the Mass.
>
>OK, so I'm not lettin' anybody off the hook here. Pederasts in the O:E
>included.
>
>But when we critique our crumminess, shortcomings, ethical lapses, and
>shady integrity, let's not forget that Professor Harold Hill got used by the
>Mystery, despite all his bad intentions.
>
>And in that sense, you could put on your theological glasses and see in
>him a Christ figure. Go figure.
>
>Marshall Jones
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