[Dialogue] {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: Primary/Secondary Integrity in the movies

KroegerD at aol.com KroegerD at aol.com
Wed Aug 29 14:50:38 EDT 2007


 
OK for 200 blades, he is released form a mental institution, solves an  
abused woman's problem is a very straightforward way, and returns to the mental  
institution.  Sort of a Batman/Pimpernal event that reveals the truth about  
life-- the future is open.
 
In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:36:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
FacilitationFla at aol.com writes:

 
 
Hi'yall
 
I just love this stuff.  Maybe we should all share our analyses of  the 
transformation we see in art forms.  I'm not very good at this but  would love to 
hear from others.
Cynthia
 
In a message dated 8/28/2007 5:17:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
synergi at yahoo.com writes:

Just to stir the pot a little bit more (y'know it's hard  to resist!):
 
There are two movie characters that come to mind in trying  to understand 
Primary and Secondary Integrity.
 
One uttered the famous line: "One hundred eleven fights  and never took a 
dive!" That for me is a good example of Primary Integrity  that, in the 
context/situation of the film, gets transformed.  Ten points if you can guess the film 
title.
 
The other guy is Professor Harold Hill. Seventy-six extra  points if you can 
name the title.  Hint: he's a major scam artist.  Second hint: it's a musical!
 
Basically Harold just wants to get laid, get paid, and hop  the last freight 
train outa town before he's tarred and feathered. (I know,  it's coming, let 
me think a sec!)
 
But here's what's amazing about the movie. Despite all his  bad intentions, 
the town gets permanently transformed, and Harold gets  caught up in a brand 
new reality (for him) and blows his exit.
 
So what's really going on here? You could say the whole  town was imprisoned 
by their xenophobia (google it) and gossip ("Pick  pick pick, talk a lot, pick 
a little more!").
 
And along comes this seductive, nasty guy whose only ethic  is to prey on the 
town's vulnerability (fear of "the telltale signs of  corruption" and 
appetite for a larger vision of something), screw  'em financially, and leave 'em 
lying in their dust and  disappointment.
 
But he believes in something, however impossible,  reduced, or perverted ("I 
always think there's a band, kid.") And  something finally moves him to tell 
little Winthrop (Ron  Howard) the truth: yes, he's a liar, and no, he can't 
read music (a very BIG  hint!).
 
So what's this got to do with US? With Town  Meetings all over Iowa (hint!) 
and our global Band of Human Development  Projects?
 
Well, we did borrow from this movie a song for the  Gibson HDP, a rewrite of 
'Lyda Rose' (HUGE hint!). And when the school  board stopped squabbling, 
learned to harmonize, and sang 'Lyda  Rose'...sheer Spirit began to break loose and 
transform  everything.
 
So you could say that miracles happened despite Professor  Hill's very shady 
version of Secondary Integrity.
 
Roman Catholic theology has a very interesting view of  this. Even the Pope 
understands that he doesn't have to be a "good guy" to  be the Pope--that is, 
to be an effective mediator of divine grace. A "bad"  priest--a pederast, for 
example--is just as effective as a saint in  bringing people into communion 
with the divine in the Mass.
 
OK, so I'm not lettin' anybody off the hook here.  Pederasts in the O:E 
included.
 
But when we critique our crumminess, shortcomings,  ethical lapses, and shady 
integrity, let's not forget that Professor Harold  Hill got used by the 
Mystery, despite all his bad intentions.
 
And in that sense, you could put on your theological  glasses and see in him 
a Christ figure. Go figure.
 
Marshall Jones
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




 
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