[Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's

[Adelbert Batica]

Dick,

If anything, it's the "human connection" that keeps me tied to Azpitia, and 
to a lesser extent - Peru.  The recent earthquake shook us here in 
Minneapolis, just as it shook our colleagues in Azpitia and Lima.  Last 
Sunday, Elsa and I, together with our Filipina friends and their "Kano" 
spouses - went to a breakfast fundraiser at the Macchu Picchu Restaurant in 
our neighborhood.  It was organized by the small Peruvian community here in 
the Twin Cities.  These friends of ours have been to Peru and Azpitia and 
have also made their own "human connections" with that beautiful country.  
And yes, we made it a point that they visit Azpitia while there, and get to 
know the ICA staff.

Though the earthquake shook Azpitia, the good news is that there were no 
casualties.  Of course, an intensity like that would impact the irrigation 
canals and the other structures.  You know how it is in that part of the 
globe - water shortage is always an issue.  Like it or not, the recent 
catastrophe will set back some of the ICA-Peru's more ambitious plans.  As 
you probably know, they were doing expansion in three provinces, including 
Canete (where Ica, the epicenter of the quake, was).  Of course, those folks 
will be on our minds in the coming year.  Incidentally, we're hosting a 
Peruvian student who's on a scholarship at the Humphrey Institute.  We can't 
avoid talking about Peru at this time.

I actually plan a Peruvian "sojourn" next year, to "re-learn" and gain newer 
insights into a lot of things.  I might be based either in Azpitia or Lima 
(or in both places!)  It might be a longer sojourn, as I'd also like to do 
sidetrips to countries like Bolivia and Ecuador, to see if I could learn 
more vis-a-vis sustainable development and test my skills at "thinking 
outside of the box".

In all honesty, Peru is less of a challenge for me.  But doing community 
development work in the Philippines is a different story.  It's tough, 
simply because the "depth human problem" is...graver.  And it's not just 
poverty, it has more to do with the "Who am I?" question.  One can't be more 
fundamental than that!

Even the Philippines' national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal, was driven to the point 
of desperation just how we could catalyze "change" in the Philippines:  "Un 
pueblo increible bajo un gobierno imposible!"  ("An incredible people under 
an impossible government!")  And like him, I also struggle, perhaps even 
more (because I'm not as smart as he was!)

Addi


----Original Message Follows----
From: Richard Alton <dick_alton at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>, Sally 
Stovall<sallystovall at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:03:56 -0500

Dear Addi, as someone who still tries to visit our HDP- I was just visiting 
Kawangware- I think your 'human connection' image is superb. It is always a 
toss up whether we learned more or they did or whether the volunteers were 
more transformed that the local project! Thanks, DickRichard H.T. Alton
International Consultants and Associates
'building global bridges'
166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N
Oak Park, IL 60302
T:1.773.344.7172
richard.alton at gmail.com

Don't let the fear of striking out hold you back
    Babe RuthFrom: abatica at hotmail.comTo: dialogue at wedgeblade.netDate: Wed, 
29 Aug 2007 14:31:41 -0500Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary 
Integrity in HDP's
Marshall,
Just to follow up on your planned a la Cecil B. de Mille production, are you 
sure you really want to see Sudtonggan in its current condition?  The last 
time Elsa and I visited the village was in September, 1995.  And it looked 
different from its 1977 condition.  It's hard to describe it, so I guess 
you'll have to see it for yourself.  As Indiana Jones would put it:  
"There's only one way to find out..."
I visited Cebu again in 1996, and yes - landed at Mactan International 
Airport, but skipped Sudtonggan.  Visited Cebu again in 2003, and skipped 
both Mactan Island and Sudtonggan altogether.  So, perhaps instead of a "de 
colores" clip of Sudtonggan, you might consider something like "film noire". 
  Let's see...which other HDP sites did I want to "revisit" in the present - 
Kinney?  My work with the state takes me to Minnesota's Iron Range, but in 
the close to 20 years that I've been doing these "circuits", the "Mystery" 
has always managed to push the gas pedal to enable this lonely traveler...to 
drive past the "Kinney" sign faster than you could possibly imagine.
Hmmmm!  In 2003, we drove from Minnesota to South Dakota, for our first ever 
trip to the Black Hills and Mt. Rushmore.  On the drive back, we chose a 
different route, and since we were in the neighborhood anyways - zoomed to 
Cannonball.  Not to "see" whatever "remained" of the project, but to see 
local folks whom we met during our stay on the res. during the summer of 
1980 (we were there that year for the Cannonball HDTS, and I was on the 
faculty because...because...I was (allegedly) an expert on HDP's).  There 
were only two people we were interested in seeing during our French call - 
George and Mary Rose Fool Bear, whom we really came to know that summer.  
They're still there, hanging on, refusing to leave Cannonball.  They now 
have grandchildren, and yes - greatgrandchildren.  We just sat down with 
them for a warm chat on a quiet
afternoon.  And you know what?  They still remembered us, and then they 
asked us:  "How's Dick Kroeger?"  We were moved, not just because the couple 
remembered Kroeger, but also because they (and especially, George) 
remembered many of his positive experiences from the HDP years.  In our 
minds, and in his mind - it was what mattered the most:  how one is best 
remembered, or...how one would want to be remembered in History.  So, Dick, 
if it's any consolation at all:  the Fool Bears will always treasure your 
friendship, your human connection.  That's the spiritual awakening from that 
sentimental visit to Cannonball.
In 2004, the power of Mystery kept pulling us back, to the one village that 
taught us what it was like to really "come alive" (and not just for the sake 
of "development") - the Village of Azpitia.  Just as we made the conscious 
decision to officially relocate there on Mother's Day, 1979, we also chose 
to show up in Azpitia...for the first time in a quarter century - on 
Mother's Day, 2004.  25 years!  Sure, Azpitia had changed and grown by leaps 
and bounds, we could hardly recognize the "original", the Azpitia we used to 
know.  But what moved us the most was...the fact that many in that village 
still remembered us, our many stories, our struggles together, our "Life 
Together", our being in community and being in communion with..."Local Man". 
  No monument is big enough to describe, to capture that kind of mysterious 
feeling - it can only be felt in the
minds, the hearts, and the souls of human beings.  In the Spirit.  The 
energetic young and middle-aged folks I knew then - had aged over the years. 
  The gradeschoolers and the high school kids who eagerly wanted to hear and 
learn from us, who painstakingly took notes at the many meetings we had, 
were now in the lead.  It's amazing that these "youngsters" would still ask 
us (over a few shots of pisco and red wine):  "What else can you teach us?"  
My response was short:  "Nothing...except Take The Lead."  And they 
are...still...in these hard times.  When an Intensity 8 Earthquake whose 
epicenter was only 94 miles away shook them.
Did I really "teach" more, or "learn" more from doing HDP's?  And now, if I 
were to sum up all my Learnings into "The One Thing" (he, he, he) - what 
would that "One Thing" be?  In my view, HDP was not just about building 
buildings, schools, clinics, or other "man-made" structures, or creating 
wild stories about ourselves...it was about building human connections, it 
was about releasing spirit energy for it to serve as a "transformative 
force", so that this "New Human" could create "the good, the true, and the 
beautiful".  It was about becoming more human, not more mechanical or 
material.  It should'a, could'a, would'a...occurred to me back then.
Things are always 20/20 in hindsight.  But the past is always approved, 
right, Marshall?  Finally, the only way for me to heal is to forgive myself, 
and forgive others.  Am I right again, Reverend?
Now, how about that category about the Future being open?
Addi




From:  "W. J." <synergi at yahoo.com>Reply-To:  Colleague Dialogue 
<dialogue at wedgeblade.net>To:  dialogue at wedgeblade.net, 
oe at wedgeblade.netSubject:  [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in 
HDP'sDate:  Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:17:27 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, Addi, I am.

And, BTW, soon we're all gonna be able to revisit Sudtonggan again, as well 
Bayad, Kawangware, Maliwada, Oyubari, Ijede, Kwangyung, Hai Ou, and many of 
the other HDP's. And yes, we'll be able to see those wells gushing 
life-giving clean water. For real.

A little bird told me that ICAI is gonna re-release The World of Human 
Development on DVD this year, exactly thirty years after it was shot. So we 
can all take a new look.

And I can't wait.

"You've got to give a little, take a little,
And let your poor heart break a little,
That's the story of, that's the glory of Love."

That's the story of, that's the glory of...
Secondary Integrity!

Marshall

"In 1952 they ranked me number five!"
"Mountain Rivera was no punk. Mountain Rivera was almost the Heavyweight 
Champion of the World!"

Adelbert Batica <abatica at hotmail.com> wrote:
Rev. Jones -Are you doing theology again? Heh, heh, heh! These are topnotch 
"pedagogical illustrations", though. And when did this pugilist make that 
bold claim, about not "taking a dive" - in 1952? Why even brag about not 
taking a dive - What was his problem, anyway?And your
"Professor Hill", did he teach at the "Gary, Indiana Conservatory of Music"? 
Yeah, you do have a way with cinema as a "tool". "Of all the bars and the 
gin joints in all the world..." - you have to delve into this God-thing 
right here.Alright, Primary and Secondary "integrity". But you know, I still 
struggle with these categories, like Randy and Kroeger, because aside from 
doing development - I was up to my eyeballs in HDP. And in Sudtonggan, I 
sometimes whirled and twirled just thinking about the many stories being 
told about the many miracles we were performing in that poor, desolate 
village. The Community Health Clinic is the image that sticks in my mind. 
Because...God only knows how many times we "sold" that Clinic to how many 
donors. Luckily enough for us - we didn't have to "invent" a well, because 
as far as water was concerned - like Moses... we could literally draw water 
from limestone rock. No sweat, no
kidding. And the water tasted just like spring water. We knew early on that 
that was a commodity we couldn't "sell" to any prospective donor.Maybe I set 
aside that Primary and Secondary stuff as soon as I was in the Land of the 
Incas, to begin working in Azpitia. Perhaps because I knew I didn't have to 
invent stories, but instead focused on "Veritas". No, there was no need to 
"create a story" for the Jesuits - they were willing to help out and give us 
a chance. But perhaps my wonder of wonders at the time was (and this is 
perhaps where that Primary and Secondary thing steps in) - my willingness to 
sit down with the Padres de Opus Dei, the Spaniards who had jurisdiction 
over the parish, Azpitia's church included. The Jesuits did warn me about 
not having anything to do with Opus Dei, but I thought at that point that, 
at least every once in while - "integrity", ha, ha, ha - could be "set 
aside" by breaking bread with
them. After all, isn't there something about "The Unity of Opposites"? When 
Left and Right come together - a creative force is released. Opus Dei gave 
us permission to use the church building for meetings and other 
project-related activities. The other thing Opus Dei gave me permission to 
do was...officiate at some funerals when no priest was available. It was 
actually a good feeling, to do the "send-out" (and fall back on my Latin 
every now and then, which the more conservative congregation just loved!) 
"De profundis clamavi ad te, Domine, Domine exaude vocem meam..."Yes, 
sometimes we had to make hard decisions, and I can't exactly describe the 
gut-wrenching feeling of having to stand in radical ambiguity. And feel the 
pain. And have to go through the Dark Night. Doubt myself, blame God, blame 
the world. The Dark Night. We all have to experience the Dark Night, it's 
part of our humanity. That the Christ figure would
dare demand: "Take this cup away from me..." is proof enough of his 
humanity. And the world will never be the same.What a great revelation.Addi 
BaticaP.S. "I'm just shocked, shocked to know that gambling is going on 
here!"----Original Message Follows----From: "W. J." Reply-To: Colleague 
Dialogue To: oe at wedgeblade.net, dialogue at wedgeblade.netSubject: [Dialogue] 
Primary/Secondary Integrity in the moviesDate: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:12:27 
-0700 (PDT)Just to stir the pot a little bit more (y'know it's hard to 
resist!):There are two movie characters that come to mind in trying to 
understand Primary and Secondary Integrity.One uttered the famous line: "One 
hundred eleven fights and never took a dive!" That for me is a good example 
of Primary Integrity that, in the context/situation of the film, gets 
transformed. Ten points if
you can guess the film title.The other guy is Professor Harold Hill. 
Seventy-six extra points if you can name the title. Hint: he's a major scam 
artist. Second hint: it's a musical!Basically Harold just wants to get laid, 
get paid, and hop the last freight train outa town before he's tarred and 
feathered. (I know, it's coming, let me think a sec!)But here's what's 
amazing about the movie. Despite all his bad intentions, the town gets 
permanently transformed, and Harold gets caught up in a brand new reality 
(for him) and blows his exit.So what's really going on here? You could say 
the whole town was imprisoned by their xenophobia (google it) and gossip 
("Pick pick pick, talk a lot, pick a little more!").And along comes this 
seductive, nasty guy whose only ethic is to prey on the town's vulnerability 
(fear of "the telltale signs of corruption" and appetite for a larger vision 
of something),
screw 'em financially, and leave 'em lying in their dust and 
disappointment.But he believes in something, however impossible, reduced, or 
perverted ("I always think there's a band, kid.") And something finally 
moves him to tell little Winthrop (Ron Howard) the truth: yes, he's a liar, 
and no, he can't read music (a very BIG hint!).So what's this got to do with 
US? With Town Meetings all over Iowa (hint!) and our global Band of Human 
Development Projects?Well, we did borrow from this movie a song for the 
Gibson HDP, a rewrite of 'Lyda Rose' (HUGE hint!). And when the school board 
stopped squabbling, learned to harmonize, and sang 'Lyda Rose'...sheer 
Spirit began to break loose and transform everything.So you could say that 
miracles happened despite Professor Hill's very shady version of Secondary 
Integrity.Roman Catholic theology has a very interesting view of this. Even 
the Pope understands
that he doesn't have to be a "good guy" to be the Pope--that is, to be an 
effective mediator of divine grace. A "bad" priest--a pederast, for 
example--is just as effective as a saint in bringing people into communion 
with the divine in the Mass.OK, so I'm not lettin' anybody off the hook 
here. Pederasts in the O:E included.But when we critique our crumminess, 
shortcomings, ethical lapses, and shady integrity, let's not forget that 
Professor Harold Hill got used by the Mystery, despite all his bad 
intentions.And in that sense, you could put on your theological glasses and 
see in him a Christ figure. Go figure.Marshall 
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