[Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's
Adelbert Batica
abatica at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 29 22:31:19 EDT 2007
Dick -
Let's see what 2008 might bring us. In my case, I'm looking in the
direction of Peru and the Philippines. Perhaps this time around, even as we
"re-connect" with our global roots, we can only hope we have become wiser
with the passing years, and have mellowed down as a result of our many
experiences, encounters, and our having found "vision" one more time - in
the darkest of nights.
So let it be - Let a New Life begin!
Addi
----Original Message Follows----
From: Richard Alton <dick_alton at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>, Sally
Stovall<sallystovall at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:13:51 -0500
Addi, I think we all should do a year of 'global sojourning' to re-establish
our global roots! The globe needs us to take the freedom we have as elders
to get our of our houses and countries. We need to celebrate the wonder and
mystery of this globe.. we need to re-take the globe from terrorist for the
next generation. I just returned from a month visiting African ICAs with
Ruth Gilbert, Don Elliott, Ed and Susan Dillinger, Carolyn Schrader, Sally
Stovall, Mary Laura Jones, Paul Noah, Sara Levinson and Dr. Shadi. It was a
great experience. Most of the group did a week or two. I want to do the same
thing next year. A month was too short ..maybe Addi you are on to something
about a year!DickRichard H.T. Alton
International Consultants and Associates
'building global bridges'
166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N
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Don't let the fear of striking out hold you back
Babe Ruth> From: abatica at hotmail.com> To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net;
sallystovall at sbcglobal.net> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:39:45 -0500> Subject:
Re: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's> > > Dick,> > If
anything, it's the "human connection" that keeps me tied to Azpitia, and >
to a lesser extent - Peru. The recent earthquake shook us here in >
Minneapolis, just as it shook our colleagues in Azpitia and Lima. Last >
Sunday, Elsa and I, together with our Filipina friends and their "Kano" >
spouses - went to a breakfast fundraiser at the Macchu Picchu Restaurant in
> our neighborhood. It was organized by the small Peruvian community here
in > the Twin Cities. These friends of ours have been to Peru and Azpitia
and > have also made their own "human connections" with that beautiful
country. > And yes, we made it a point that they visit Azpitia while there,
and get to > know the ICA staff.> > Though the earthquake shook Azpitia, the
good news is that there were no > casualties. Of course, an intensity like
that would impact the irrigation > canals and the other structures. You
know how it is in that part of the > globe - water shortage is always an
issue. Like it or not, the recent > catastrophe will set back some of the
ICA-Peru's more ambitious plans. As > you probably know, they were doing
expansion in three provinces, including > Canete (where Ica, the epicenter
of the quake, was). Of course, those folks > will be on our minds in the
coming year. Incidentally, we're hosting a > Peruvian student who's on a
scholarship at the Humphrey Institute. We can't > avoid talking about Peru
at this time.> > I actually plan a Peruvian "sojourn" next year, to
"re-learn" and gain newer > insights into a lot of things. I might be based
either in Azpitia or Lima > (or in both places!) It might be a longer
sojourn, as I'd also like to do > sidetrips to countries like Bolivia and
Ecuador, to see if I could learn > more vis-a-vis sustainable development
and test my skills at "thinking > outside of the box".> > In all honesty,
Peru is less of a challenge for me. But doing community > development work
in the Philippines is a different story. It's tough, > simply because the
"depth human problem" is...graver. And it's not just > poverty, it has more
to do with the "Who am I?" question. One can't be more > fundamental than
that!> > Even the Philippines' national hero, Dr. Jose Rizal, was driven to
the point > of desperation just how we could catalyze "change" in the
Philippines: "Un > pueblo increible bajo un gobierno imposible!" ("An
incredible people under > an impossible government!") And like him, I also
struggle, perhaps even > more (because I'm not as smart as he was!)> > Addi>
> > ----Original Message Follows----> From: Richard Alton
<dick_alton at hotmail.com>> Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue
<dialogue at wedgeblade.net>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>,
Sally > Stovall<sallystovall at sbcglobal.net>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue]
Primary/Secondary Integrity in HDP's> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:03:56 -0500>
> Dear Addi, as someone who still tries to visit our HDP- I was just
visiting > Kawangware- I think your 'human connection' image is superb. It
is always a > toss up whether we learned more or they did or whether the
volunteers were > more transformed that the local project! Thanks,
DickRichard H.T. Alton> International Consultants and Associates> 'building
global bridges'> 166 N. Humphrey Ave, Apt, 1N> Oak Park, IL 60302>
T:1.773.344.7172> richard.alton at gmail.com> > Don't let the fear of striking
out hold you back> Babe RuthFrom: abatica at hotmail.comTo:
dialogue at wedgeblade.netDate: Wed, > 29 Aug 2007 14:31:41 -0500Subject: Re:
[Dialogue] Primary/Secondary > Integrity in HDP's> Marshall,> Just to follow
up on your planned a la Cecil B. de Mille production, are you > sure you
really want to see Sudtonggan in its current condition? The last > time
Elsa and I visited the village was in September, 1995. And it looked >
different from its 1977 condition. It's hard to describe it, so I guess >
you'll have to see it for yourself. As Indiana Jones would put it: >
"There's only one way to find out..."> I visited Cebu again in 1996, and yes
- landed at Mactan International > Airport, but skipped Sudtonggan. Visited
Cebu again in 2003, and skipped > both Mactan Island and Sudtonggan
altogether. So, perhaps instead of a "de > colores" clip of Sudtonggan, you
might consider something like "film noire". > Let's see...which other HDP
sites did I want to "revisit" in the present - > Kinney? My work with the
state takes me to Minnesota's Iron Range, but in > the close to 20 years
that I've been doing these "circuits", the "Mystery" > has always managed to
push the gas pedal to enable this lonely traveler...to > drive past the
"Kinney" sign faster than you could possibly imagine.> Hmmmm! In 2003, we
drove from Minnesota to South Dakota, for our first ever > trip to the Black
Hills and Mt. Rushmore. On the drive back, we chose a > different route,
and since we were in the neighborhood anyways - zoomed to > Cannonball. Not
to "see" whatever "remained" of the project, but to see > local folks whom
we met during our stay on the res. during the summer of > 1980 (we were
there that year for the Cannonball HDTS, and I was on the > faculty
because...because...I was (allegedly) an expert on HDP's). There > were
only two people we were interested in seeing during our French call - >
George and Mary Rose Fool Bear, whom we really came to know that summer. >
They're still there, hanging on, refusing to leave Cannonball. They now >
have grandchildren, and yes - greatgrandchildren. We just sat down with >
them for a warm chat on a quiet> afternoon. And you know what? They still
remembered us, and then they > asked us: "How's Dick Kroeger?" We were
moved, not just because the couple > remembered Kroeger, but also because
they (and especially, George) > remembered many of his positive experiences
from the HDP years. In our > minds, and in his mind - it was what mattered
the most: how one is best > remembered, or...how one would want to be
remembered in History. So, Dick, > if it's any consolation at all: the
Fool Bears will always treasure your > friendship, your human connection.
That's the spiritual awakening from that > sentimental visit to Cannonball.>
In 2004, the power of Mystery kept pulling us back, to the one village that
> taught us what it was like to really "come alive" (and not just for the
sake > of "development") - the Village of Azpitia. Just as we made the
conscious > decision to officially relocate there on Mother's Day, 1979, we
also chose > to show up in Azpitia...for the first time in a quarter century
- on > Mother's Day, 2004. 25 years! Sure, Azpitia had changed and grown
by leaps > and bounds, we could hardly recognize the "original", the Azpitia
we used to > know. But what moved us the most was...the fact that many in
that village > still remembered us, our many stories, our struggles
together, our "Life > Together", our being in community and being in
communion with..."Local Man". > No monument is big enough to describe, to
capture that kind of mysterious > feeling - it can only be felt in the>
minds, the hearts, and the souls of human beings. In the Spirit. The >
energetic young and middle-aged folks I knew then - had aged over the years.
> The gradeschoolers and the high school kids who eagerly wanted to hear
and > learn from us, who painstakingly took notes at the many meetings we
had, > were now in the lead. It's amazing that these "youngsters" would
still ask > us (over a few shots of pisco and red wine): "What else can you
teach us?" > My response was short: "Nothing...except Take The Lead." And
they > are...still...in these hard times. When an Intensity 8 Earthquake
whose > epicenter was only 94 miles away shook them.> Did I really "teach"
more, or "learn" more from doing HDP's? And now, if I > were to sum up all
my Learnings into "The One Thing" (he, he, he) - what > would that "One
Thing" be? In my view, HDP was not just about building > buildings,
schools, clinics, or other "man-made" structures, or creating > wild stories
about ourselves...it was about building human connections, it > was about
releasing spirit energy for it to serve as a "transformative > force", so
that this "New Human" could create "the good, the true, and the >
beautiful". It was about becoming more human, not more mechanical or >
material. It should'a, could'a, would'a...occurred to me back then.> Things
are always 20/20 in hindsight. But the past is always approved, > right,
Marshall? Finally, the only way for me to heal is to forgive myself, > and
forgive others. Am I right again, Reverend?> Now, how about that category
about the Future being open?> Addi> > > > > From: "W. J."
<synergi at yahoo.com>Reply-To: Colleague Dialogue >
<dialogue at wedgeblade.net>To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net, >
oe at wedgeblade.netSubject: [Dialogue] Primary/Secondary Integrity in >
HDP'sDate: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:17:27 -0700 (PDT)> > Yes, Addi, I am.> >
And, BTW, soon we're all gonna be able to revisit Sudtonggan again, as well
> Bayad, Kawangware, Maliwada, Oyubari, Ijede, Kwangyung, Hai Ou, and many
of > the other HDP's. And yes, we'll be able to see those wells gushing >
life-giving clean water. For real.> > A little bird told me that ICAI is
gonna re-release The World of Human > Development on DVD this year, exactly
thirty years after it was shot. So we > can all take a new look.> > And I
can't wait.> > "You've got to give a little, take a little,> And let your
poor heart break a little,> That's the story of, that's the glory of Love.">
> That's the story of, that's the glory of...> Secondary Integrity!> >
Marshall> > "In 1952 they ranked me number five!"> "Mountain Rivera was no
punk. Mountain Rivera was almost the Heavyweight > Champion of the World!">
> Adelbert Batica <abatica at hotmail.com> wrote:> Rev. Jones -Are you doing
theology again? Heh, heh, heh! These are topnotch > "pedagogical
illustrations", though. And when did this pugilist make that > bold claim,
about not "taking a dive" - in 1952? Why even brag about not > taking a dive
- What was his problem, anyway?And your> "Professor Hill", did he teach at
the "Gary, Indiana Conservatory of Music"? > Yeah, you do have a way with
cinema as a "tool". "Of all the bars and the > gin joints in all the
world..." - you have to delve into this God-thing > right here.Alright,
Primary and Secondary "integrity". But you know, I still > struggle with
these categories, like Randy and Kroeger, because aside from > doing
development - I was up to my eyeballs in HDP. And in Sudtonggan, I >
sometimes whirled and twirled just thinking about the many stories being >
told about the many miracles we were performing in that poor, desolate >
village. The Community Health Clinic is the image that sticks in my mind. >
Because...God only knows how many times we "sold" that Clinic to how many >
donors. Luckily enough for us - we didn't have to "invent" a well, because >
as far as water was concerned - like Moses... we could literally draw water
> from limestone rock. No sweat, no> kidding. And the water tasted just
like spring water. We knew early on that > that was a commodity we couldn't
"sell" to any prospective donor.Maybe I set > aside that Primary and
Secondary stuff as soon as I was in the Land of the > Incas, to begin
working in Azpitia. Perhaps because I knew I didn't have to > invent
stories, but instead focused on "Veritas". No, there was no need to >
"create a story" for the Jesuits - they were willing to help out and give us
> a chance. But perhaps my wonder of wonders at the time was (and this is >
perhaps where that Primary and Secondary thing steps in) - my willingness to
> sit down with the Padres de Opus Dei, the Spaniards who had jurisdiction
> over the parish, Azpitia's church included. The Jesuits did warn me about
> not having anything to do with Opus Dei, but I thought at that point
that, > at least every once in while - "integrity", ha, ha, ha - could be
"set > aside" by breaking bread with> them. After all, isn't there something
about "The Unity of Opposites"? When > Left and Right come together - a
creative force is released. Opus Dei gave > us permission to use the church
building for meetings and other > project-related activities. The other
thing Opus Dei gave me permission to > do was...officiate at some funerals
when no priest was available. It was > actually a good feeling, to do the
"send-out" (and fall back on my Latin > every now and then, which the more
conservative congregation just loved!) > "De profundis clamavi ad te,
Domine, Domine exaude vocem meam..."Yes, > sometimes we had to make hard
decisions, and I can't exactly describe the > gut-wrenching feeling of
having to stand in radical ambiguity. And feel the > pain. And have to go
through the Dark Night. Doubt myself, blame God, blame > the world. The Dark
Night. We all have to experience the Dark Night, it's > part of our
humanity. That the Christ figure would> dare demand: "Take this cup away
from me..." is proof enough of his > humanity. And the world will never be
the same.What a great revelation.Addi > BaticaP.S. "I'm just shocked,
shocked to know that gambling is going on > here!"----Original Message
Follows----From: "W. J." Reply-To: Colleague > Dialogue To:
oe at wedgeblade.net, dialogue at wedgeblade.netSubject: [Dialogue] >
Primary/Secondary Integrity in the moviesDate: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:12:27 >
-0700 (PDT)Just to stir the pot a little bit more (y'know it's hard to >
resist!):There are two movie characters that come to mind in trying to >
understand Primary and Secondary Integrity.One uttered the famous line: "One
> hundred eleven fights and never took a dive!" That for me is a good
example > of Primary Integrity that, in the context/situation of the film,
gets > transformed. Ten points if> you can guess the film title.The other
guy is Professor Harold Hill. > Seventy-six extra points if you can name the
title. Hint: he's a major scam > artist. Second hint: it's a
musical!Basically Harold just wants to get laid, > get paid, and hop the
last freight train outa town before he's tarred and > feathered. (I know,
it's coming, let me think a sec!)But here's what's > amazing about the
movie. Despite all his bad intentions, the town gets > permanently
transformed, and Harold gets caught up in a brand new reality > (for him)
and blows his exit.So what's really going on here? You could say > the whole
town was imprisoned by their xenophobia (google it) and gossip > ("Pick pick
pick, talk a lot, pick a little more!").And along comes this > seductive,
nasty guy whose only ethic is to prey on the town's vulnerability > (fear of
"the telltale signs of corruption" and appetite for a larger vision > of
something),> screw 'em financially, and leave 'em lying in their dust and >
disappointment.But he believes in something, however impossible, reduced, or
> perverted ("I always think there's a band, kid.") And something finally >
moves him to tell little Winthrop (Ron Howard) the truth: yes, he's a liar,
> and no, he can't read music (a very BIG hint!).So what's this got to do
with > US? With Town Meetings all over Iowa (hint!) and our global Band of
Human > Development Projects?Well, we did borrow from this movie a song for
the > Gibson HDP, a rewrite of 'Lyda Rose' (HUGE hint!). And when the school
board > stopped squabbling, learned to harmonize, and sang 'Lyda
Rose'...sheer > Spirit began to break loose and transform everything.So you
could say that > miracles happened despite Professor Hill's very shady
version of Secondary > Integrity.Roman Catholic theology has a very
interesting view of this. Even > the Pope understands> that he doesn't have
to be a "good guy" to be the Pope--that is, to be an > effective mediator of
divine grace. A "bad" priest--a pederast, for > example--is just as
effective as a saint in bringing people into communion > with the divine in
the Mass.OK, so I'm not lettin' anybody off the hook > here. Pederasts in
the O:E included.But when we critique our crumminess, > shortcomings,
ethical lapses, and shady integrity, let's not forget that > Professor
Harold Hill got used by the Mystery, despite all his bad > intentions.And in
that sense, you could put on your theological glasses and > see in him a
Christ figure. Go figure.Marshall >
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