[Dialogue] Spirit Journey Retreat (RS-1) - Grace huddle?

[Charles or Doris Hahn]

Hi John,
Thanks for all your great work.  Your RS-I work sound
great to me.  Keep it up.  I hate to nit-pick, but I
do not think that Carl Caskey could have seen Zorba at
an event in Ausin in the 50's.  Zorba is a 1964 film. 
He and I may have both been in the first PMC (Parish
Ministers Colloquy) at the Chistian Faith and Life
Community in 1958-59.  I remember clearly our going to
see another Anthony Quinn Movie, La Strada.  Funny
what one remembers!  Don't let this little detail
bother your work.
Charles Hahn
--- John Cock <jpc2025 at triad.rr.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much, Adam, 
>  
> We stand accountable. We did use most of the short
> courses, a Kaz liturgy
> (via Shirley H. Snelling), a cosmic Namaste
> physical-exercise liturgy I
> concocted, several Fifth City Preschool rituals, a
> host of RS-I and movement
> songs (16 total), most short courses, original board
> images, original
> papers, etc. Did not use full Daily Office, but a
> Geneva. We had the "full
> and informed support" (and you and I have been in a
> few unorthodox RS-I's,
> huh -- like my first time out with Buss as the lead
> pedagogue: I had never
> heard one word of the "G-O-D lecture" he presented,
> nigh onto a couple of
> hours -- Fred, I hope you're on this list -- how I
> do exaggerate(!), but not
> too much) of a gaggle of us who helped prepare for
> it, and many others
> who've given input over recent years. And rather
> than send a tithe of the
> honorarium to who-knows-where, we are sending it to
> help in the future JWM
> archives digitization and transition to some great
> university, hopefully.
> ($'s in the mail, George.)
>  
> Adam, glad your heart was warmed and lifted up
> (you've always reminded me of
> a sober Dylan T.) and your depression is lessened ,
>  
> G & P - John
>  
> P.S. One participant, Carl Caskey, hired Vance
> Engleman for the Wesley
> Foundation in OK. They sent bus loads of college
> students to Chicago for
> courses, with the help of Jim Troxel and others.
> Carl's first RS-I was with
> Jack Lewis and JWM in the '50's, he said; the movie
> was "Zorba." (There've
> been many movies in this ongoing experiment, huh?
> Oh, and Adam, we did not
> use "Requiem for a Heavyweight.")
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
> [mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
> Of Adam Thomson
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:24 AM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Spirit Journey Retreat
> (RS-1) - Grace huddle?
> 
> 
> >From Adam Thomson, Dover UK
> 
> It certainly warmed my heart and lifted me out of my
> acute depression (Bush,
> unbridled capitalism, Blair, global warming, the
> Anglican Church - you name
> it...) to see John Cock's posting re RS1 - still the
> life-changing event
> that it was for me when I first took it in Caracas
> in 1971.
> 
> Whilst I myself wouldn't dare ever organising this
> evolving "RS1" event
> without full and informed support (and paying for
> the privilege for using
> the construct), I - and many others, I am sure -
> would love to hear more
> details of this current construct as it develops.
> For instance, did you use
> all the original stuff (short courses etc) on
> worship and rituals, including
> introducing the full Daily Office?
> 
> It's my turn to gush a bit. Maybe I shouldn't be
> asking such questions at
> this stage. But you can sense by this response and
> those from others that
> there is a deep deep thirst, still, out there. The
> Anglican church is in
> crisis - everyone knows that. Maybe some people in
> the UK will suggest that
> it's past saving. But at the local level - MY local
> level, as I am finding -
> I cannot help thinking there are possibilities for
> an event along the lines
> that John has sketched out, for those who still "go
> to church" - relative
> rarety in the UK. After all they are human beings
> too.
> 
> John's last line certainly resonated with me: "God,
> it's good to watch
> people come alive before your eyes, especially when
> cynicism ("the living
> dead") is trying to eat us alive these days."
> 
> Yup - I know I am still looking for the Messiah...
> 
> Thank you, John, for your posting on this.
> 
> G & P - Adam
> 
> At 14:43 22/02/2007, you wrote:
> 
> 
> I just did the same thing, Myra. I think I pd. $1
> and 3.50 s/h.
> Glad you're on the list and that a few paragraphs
> did all that.
>  
> John
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net [
> <mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net>
> mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of
> Myra Griffin
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:23 AM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Spirit Journey Retreat
> (RS-1) - Grace huddle?
> 
> Your report had given me a chance to reflect on and
> relive my first RSl.
> Thank you.
> I recently found a second hand copy of DHL at
> Amazon.com since my copy is
> falling apart. 
> Too bad that version is out of print. 
> Myra Griffin
> 
> John Cock wrote: 
> 
> 
> Thank you much, Janice. You're too kind. 
>  
> Here's a quick response to your questions, plus.
> Excuse me if I gush a bit.
>  
> 30 min. Grace Huddles/Pleno: after
> presentation/Tillich para. 12, we hand
> out "Life-changing Events" sheet for individ.
> reflection of 10 events, and
> some marked with "G," for grace; then, in grps. of
> 5-6, each shares a
> "grace" event (very powerful), and as group they
> write big sentence on dyn.
> of grace . . .  "We experience grace when . . ." to
> be read at Grace Pleno.
> They get it in spades. This huddle/planary is the
> breakthrough of the
> weekend, only to be matched by the church session,
> where we emphasized "When
> have you been on the point?" and "When next?" 
>  
> Something like that. We are working
> ind-reflect/sub-group-sharing dynamic
> into the four main sessions. This construct is less
> rational (more focus on
> sentinel paragraph[s]) and more about grounding and
> sharing experience . . .
> so they will never, never forget they all HAVE
> experienced the deeps . . .
> and will never forget that fact.
>  
> Found fine new translation of Bonhoeffer's
> "Freedom." Old papers contexted
> (and less emphasis), still fine; more a "retreat"
> and less a "studies"
> weekend. Exciting to see the ToP participants
> respond so enthusiastically
> this weekend. Weekend at least as powerful as ever.
> Fine participants'
> manual with design, loads of songs, rituals, Geneva,
> reading list, the
> papers, etc., thanks to Beret and Ron (and our
> borrowing much from Shirley
> Heckman Snelling's resources), as well as their
> excellent prep, decor, and
> orchestration. Movie, "As Good As It Gets," got them
> clear that
> "transformation flows through TWLI"; Sun. morning
> most understand that
> Melvin, Carol, and Simon could well crash and burn
> without a community of
> faith, though a few were trying to dub Carol a saint
> (shades of Miss Miller)
> -- talk about the blind leading the blind (in the
> movie). We will pass out
> 
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