[Dialogue] Mutual Accountablity, my dog in this hunt
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-----Original Message-----
From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:15 PM
To: Colleague Dialogue; mhampton at att.net; oe at wedgeblade.net
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Mutual Accountablity, my dog in this hunt
Jim Wiegel here. I was having dinner, this evening,
with Joe and Marilyn Crocker, here in Maine. (Our 2
dogs got along, which was a good sign)
We got talking about the current situations and I
mentioned Joe Slicker's commentary on being pushed out
of Austin, out of Evanston, etc.
Crocker said he didn't think these upsets had hurt us
over the years. hmmm.
What rude beast now slouches toward Bethlehem to be
born? (shades of Steve Allen)
Jim
--- "W. J." <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mary, it is inspiring to hear from you. And I
> appreciate your articulating your personal stake in
> our common future as well as our heritage.
>
> The three metaphors that come to my mind to get at
> my experience of being who I am in history are:
> exile, excommunication, and hijacking.
>
> Being in Exile is not being able to go home. In my
> deepest experience of who I am, "home" is at 4750
> Sheridan Road, with those dual brass plaques next to
> the front door: "The Ecumenical Institute" and "The
> Institute of Cultural Affairs." The facade is the
> same, but the inner being, the guts, if you will,
> has been gutted. And I'm not even welcome there, as
> far as I can tell.
>
> Being Excommunicated is having your membership
> revoked. Somebody decided that they have a legal,
> proprietary interest in the signs and symbols of our
> 'election' and took them away. I don't think they
> remembered to take back the Iron Cross, but they
> took back the "ICA" monniker. 'Nough said. It was
> about a struggle for control.
>
> And finally, Being Hijacked is about somebody
> taking control of the plane and flying it where we
> don't want it to go--that is, in violation of our
> consensus about our destination. I bought a ticket
> to Timbuktu and instead of going there, I don't have
> a clue as to where we're all headed. And I feel
> deeply violated.
>
> Some of us are quietly doing an "end run" around
> the residue of ICA-USA. Stay tuned for more details.
>
> Marshall
>
> mhampton at att.net wrote:
>
> I have saved numerous email documents since the
> ICA firings, documents discussions and so forth. I
> was among the indignant at the Mathews misspelling.
> When I put our local dinner-once-a-month-and-study
> group on my calendar I usually write "ICA".
>
> When I was in the Order in its residential, shared
> income, gathered community mode I was a permeator.
> I wanted to be a permeator. I remember in the 1987
> or so writing and publishing via connected computers
> (what did we call that early form of internet?) A
> profession and a calling. Basically, I was saying I
> was (and am) an occupational therapist, a specific
> health care professional. AND I was (and am) a
> member of Those Who Care, in the specific form of
> the Order Ecumenical.
>
> I normally call the dinner and study group "the
> Alumni Association" in my head. It consists, at
> this time, of Hamptons, Glenna and Dane Adkinson,
> Nick and Deborah Denner, Ken and Deana Henry, Terry
> and Diane McCabe, George and Wanda Holcombe and
> Laura Westbrook. None of these folk were ever
> assigned with me in the residential Order. Everyone
> except Deborah had their own first hand experience
> that manifestation of our community. AND, since we
> have been meeting with some of them for 14 years,
> they are among my deepest colleagues and friends.
>
> We don't do ICA together. If we are at your house
> you are responsible for the main course and the
> program. We have studied many wonderful writings,
> artform conversed about music, watched movies and
> gone tubing together.
>
> And all of us invested our lives in Town Meetings,
> Development Projects and IERD. Leading them and
> holding the outside jobs that were a substantial
> part of how we paid for it all.
>
> I have wondered why I keep saving all these
> emails. I still am invested in this community. I
> am invested in my children, but Lis is 30 and Chris
> is 26; I don't presume to tell them how to live (and
> when I slip up and do-they don't follow my
> "instructions").
>
> Is ICA different? Should we have had a symbolic
> burning and dissolved those ICA and EI
> corporations/disallowed use of the names when we
> called the symbolic Order out of being? Are these
> names among the words "that should be hung out on
> the clothes line to air for 50 years"?
>
> I have more questions than answers. I have a
> stake in the products of our work-the archives. I
> am still waiting to hear the answers to questions
> others have raised about where ICA goes from here.
> I want to respond to "that of God in each of you,"
> in the Quaker phrase, and trust what is being born
> is an aspect of Those Who Care in action.
>
> Please keep us informed. Please do not take our
> interest lightly.
>
> Grace and Peace,
> Love and Light,
> mary kincaid hampton
>
> -------------- Original message from
> dpelliott at aol.com: --------------
>
> Marshall,
>
> An interesting factor in the decision to sell or
> not to sell the Kemper Building is the research Jim
> Troxell did at the time. I'm sure he will share it
> with you if you ask. As I recall, a survey at the
> time indicated the land value was about $600k, if it
> was vacant land. There was virtually no market for
> the building. Removing the building to have vacant
> land to sell would cost about $600k. This market
> research which indicated our major asset was
> virtually worthless as a marketable asset played a
> part in the decision not to sell. It is a minor
> miracle that a lot of hard work, imagination, and
> dedication turned this virtually worthless asset
> into the major community asset present today.
>
> Don Elliott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
> To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net; oe at wedgeblade.net
> Sent: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 4:20 pm
> Subject: [Dialogue] Mutual Accou ntablity
>
>
> Duncan raises some VERY interesting questions.
>
> Using the Canadian Institute of Cultural Affairs
> and affiliates as a kind of mirror to reflect on our
> experience with ICA-USA, what pitfalls did they
> avoid, and what creative new processes and/or
> structures did they invent in struggling with
> financial/programmatic accountability?
>
> And how did the staff and the board remain
> mutually accountable?
>
> I recall that the Ecumenical Institute would not
> own the Kemper Building today if the Board of
> Directors had had its way. Faced with an empty and
> deteriorating building, the Board decided to sell
> it. But, as Mary Warren Moffett recently reminded
> me, a bunch of people--let's call them the Guardian
> Dynamic--said to the Board, "OH NO, YOU WON'T!" And
> those determined people succeeded in pulling off
> what I would call the Kemper Miracle, giving us the
> investment in Uptown that survives today.
>
> So let's not assume that any version of the
> rapidly changing Board of Directors automatically
> has the final wisdom or the last word--unless we let
> them.
>
> And finally, Duncan, who is the owner of the ICA
> Associates in Canada?
>
> And why did our Board of Directors prohibit the
> use of the concept of "ICA Associates" in the USA?
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
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