[Dialogue] JWM as mystic

[frank bremner]

A great discussion.  To which I'd like to add my bit and would welcome 
comments.  My own "shamanistic" experience?  Next time.

Cheers

Frank Bremner
Adelaide, where Anthony Lapaglia learned to play soccer.

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>From: LAURELCG at aol.com
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>Subject: [Dialogue] JWM as mystic
>Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 23:58:25 EDT
>
>I've been thinking of John Cock and Darrel Walker's exchange (below) ever
>since it appeared, and haven't had time to comment, but want to now.  In my
>memory, there is no doubt that Joseph Wesley Mathews was a mystic.  How 
>else could
>he have experienced The Other World, and led us to also experience it?  Do 
>you
>remember his lecture on the fire at the center of being?  The wonder of
>living that he evoked with those ridiculous TWEEU birds?  Remember the 
>story of his
>ecstasy at spending a whole day in a cuckoo clock shop in Switzerland?  If 
>he
>hunts me down, I'll assure him not only was he a mystic, he also enabled
>others to be mystics.
>
>My 2 cents
>
>   Darrel, I did a double-take on your saying JWM was a revolutionary 
>mystic.
>Beware, he may hunt you down.
>
>
>       God, what a terrifying thought!
>
>       Actually, I heard a tape of Marcus Borg's talk that he gave to the
>Progressive Christians Uniting in Pasadena recently, and at the end of his 
>talk he
>used two terms--ecstatic mysticism and non-ecstatic mysticism.  He didn't
>expand on them much but inferred the latter to be a base that empowers us 
>to
>combat injustice (or some such).  I'm not sure what Borg means by the 
>terms, but
>somehow non-ecstatic mystic seems to describe JWM for me.
>
>       Something to think about in reflecting on Matthews.
>
>           Darrell<BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> 
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