[Dialogue] JWM as mystic

[W. J.]

Wayne Nelson wrote: " As near as I can tell, he [JWM] avoided talking about mysticism entirely..."   
  Not true, according to my memory. Joe Mathews often talked about "the Achilles Heel of Mysticism." Then, with his voice rising in intensity, and pointing that index finger of his toward us, he would go on and on about how the otherworldly Mystics were escaping from responsibility of caring for all in the here and now. 
   
  How dramatic was that?
   
  Marshall
  

Wilson Priscilla <pwilson at teamtechinc.com> wrote:
  Wayne,  Well put...your insights always add to the discussion.
  Joe was very dramatic about the "here and now" and I hear him over my shoulder frequently.
  Priscilla Wilson
  
    On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Wayne Nelson wrote:

    He probably was - in his own way. He, however, would and did claim that his
  focus was on ontology rather than metaphysics. In his talk, The Recovery of
  the Other World called the transparency we experience as a "new
  metaphysics." He talked about it as grounded and transparent. It's
  interesting to read again. As near as I can tell, he avoided talking about
  mysticism entirely, because he wanted to make the point that life takes
  place in the here and now and as we live in the here and now, we sometimes
  see through to the profound.  One of Joe's gifts was the ability to conjure
  up powerful metaphors that helped us see through our own situations without
  losing track of where we are.
  

  \\/
  

  

  

  "LAURELCG at aol.com"  wrote:
  

    I've been thinking of John Cock and Darrel Walker's exchange (below) ever
  since it appeared, and haven't had time to comment, but want to now.  In my
  memory, there is no doubt that Joseph Wesley Mathews was a mystic.  How else
  could 
  he have experienced The Other World, and led us to also experience it?  Do you
  remember his lecture on the fire at the center of being?  The wonder of
  living that he evoked with those ridiculous TWEEU birds?  Remember the story
  of his 
  ecstasy at spending a whole day in a cuckoo clock shop in Switzerland?  If he
  hunts me down, I'll assure him not only was he a mystic, he also enabled
  others to be mystics.
  

  

  < >  < >  < >  < >  < >
  Wayne Nelson - ICA Associates Inc
  416-691-2316 - http://ica-associates.ca
  

  

  

  

  _______________________________________________
  Dialogue mailing list
  Dialogue at wedgeblade.net
  http://wedgeblade.net/mailman/listinfo/dialogue_wedgeblade.net
  



    Priscilla Wilson
  TeamTech Press
  Mission Hills, KS 66208
  pwilson at teamtechinc.com
  





_______________________________________________
Dialogue mailing list
Dialogue at wedgeblade.net
http://wedgeblade.net/mailman/listinfo/dialogue_wedgeblade.net

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://wedgeblade.net/pipermail/dialogue_wedgeblade.net/attachments/20070604/f4def290/attachment.html