[Dialogue] Effort to prevent war with Iran

Sat Oct 27 12:21:20 EDT 2007

Colleen,   The reason I posted information about Move-On's campaign was
because their proposal was:  "If we can raise $200,000 today, here's what
we'll do:

*	A number of top retired generals and military experts are willing to
say publicly that attacking Iran would be a strategic disaster. We'll put
them on tour to speak to political leaders, editorial boards and big
audiences. 
*	We'll run ads challenging the Bush administration and key
presidential candidates-and remind people that the last time we heard many
of these phony arguments was in the lead-up to war with Iraq. 
*	We'll commission polling to show wavering politicians that if they
stand up against war with Iran , the public will stand with them. 
*	We'll run a major grassroots campaign urging Congress to confront
the administration on Iran . 

None of us know how likely a strike against Iran really is. But I'm going to
do more than just hope it doesn't happen. The signs and signals have become
too glaring. We have to act."

Actually, they raised $250,000 and it seems to me what they intend to do is
a very good way , as you suggest:  "to give congress some guts and a clout
aside the head reminding them of their powers and constitutional
responsibilities and duties."

That all happened just four days ago.  I'm hopeful we'll soon see some of
Move-On efforts in action.

Jim Rippey in Bellevue, NE

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From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Colleen Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:06 PM
To: Colleague Dialogue
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Effort to prevent war with Iran

Who said that Bush, Cheney and company were rational?  The best way to stop
Ian attack on Iran is to immediately impeach President Bush.  The next best
way is to give congress some guts and a clout aaside the head reminding them
of their powers and constituional responisbilities and duties.

Colleen Smith

Moab, Utah

R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com> wrote:

I have a friend who is a civilian employee of the Army & Air Force Exchange
Service (AAFES) who returned a few months ago from an extended tour in Iraq.
He says the talk he heard is that Bush has been planning from the beginning
to use Iraq as a staging area to attack Iran.

While I don't doubt his word, I have a hard time believing that anyone, even
someone like a Dick Cheney, could make an agrument for such a move that has
any hint of rationality, even if all you cared about was the security of the
U.S.  Furthermore, how could Iraq, given the way the war has gone, be
considered the staging area for anything?  This country needs to get back to
a policy of banning preemptive strikes.

Randy

----- Original Message ----
From: Jim Rippey <jimripsr at qwest.net>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:58:20 PM
Subject: [Dialogue] Effort to prevent war with Iran

I received an alert from Move On this afternoon about a major effort to
prevent war with Iran . The proposal sounds good so I immediately sent a
contribution.   

Here are excerpts:

"So today we're proposing a major campaign to expose the danger of a new war
with Iran (see below for details). It'll cost about $200,000, and if we can
raise the money, we'll start today. Can you chip in $50?

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/irandonate.html?id=11488-3915236-i42mfs
<https://pol.moveon.org/donate/irandonate.html?id=11488-3915236-i42mfs&t=2>
&t=2

War would be a disaster. Military officials who've gamed-out a war with Iran
say it's a very, very bad idea. " Iran would hit back against US forces in
Iraq and Afghanistan and activate terrorist allies in the Middle East ,
further destabilizing a region already struggling with two major wars."2  US
troops in the region, Israelis and American civilians abroad and at home
would all be at risk.

And it's a real possibility.  For months, there's been a stream of leaks and
revelations by former Bush administration officials that paint a scary
picture: Vice President Cheney and the neocons are quietly maneuvering us
toward war with Iran -just as they did with Iraq.3,4

We can't run the risk that they're crazy enough to do it. That's why it's so
important that we make sure policymakers understand the cost of war, and we
pressure Congress not to roll over on Iran . If we can raise the money
today, here's what we'll do:

*	A number of top retired generals and military experts are willing to
say publicly that attacking Iran would be a strategic disaster. We'll put
them on tour to speak to political leaders, editorial boards and big
audiences. 
*	We'll run ads challenging the Bush administration and key
presidential candidates-and remind people that the last time we heard many
of these phony arguments was in the lead-up to war with Iraq. 
*	We'll commission polling to show wavering politicians that if they
stand up against war with Iran , the public will stand with them. 
*	We'll run a major grassroots campaign urging Congress to confront
the administration on Iran . 

None of us know how likely a strike against Iran really is. But I'm going to
do more than just hope it doesn't happen. The signs and signals have become
too glaring. We have to act.

----------------------------------------

I'll send the full article if anyone want it.  The above is about half of
it.   Jim Rippey in Bellevue , NE

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