[Dialogue] undeteriorated Oprah tape?

Sat Sep 15 11:18:31 EDT 2007

Reminds me of the scene in St. Elmo's fire where they split up the record
collection. . .

  - Tracy E. Longacre 
    VSO Volunteer 
    Bamenda, Cameroon 

The ultimate aim of the quest must be neither release nor ecstasy for
oneself, but the wisdom and power to serve others. 

Joseph Campbell

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    Flickr Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlongacre/ 

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From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Sunny Walker
Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 7:50 PM
To: 'Colleague Dialogue'; 'W. J.'; 'Gordon Harper'
Cc: oe at wedgeblade.net; 'M. George Walters'; 'Marilyn Oyler'
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] undeteriorated Oprah tape?

I've forwarded the message to him. In the split, he got the tapes.

Sunny Walker

Senior Facilitator

Council of Energy Resource Tribes

303-282-7576 xtn. 12; cell: 303-587-3017

FAX: 303-282-7574

695 S. Colorado Blvd.

Denver, CO 80246

CERT MISSION

To support member Tribes as they develop their

management capabilities and use their energy resources

as the foundation for building stable,

balanced self-governed economies, according to each Tribe's vision and
priorities.

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From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Mary Laura
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:13 AM
To: 'W. J.'; 'Gordon Harper'
Cc: dialogue at wedgeblade.net; oe at wedgeblade.net; 'Marilyn Oyler'; 'M. George
Walters'
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] undeteriorated Oprah tape?

someone suggested Rick Jones may have a good copy????? Mary Laura

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773 636-2022 cell or 773 977-1802

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From: W. J. [mailto:synergi at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:11 PM
To: Gordon Harper
Cc: James Wiegel; Marilyn Oyler; M. George Walters; Mary Laura;
dialogue at wedgeblade.net; oe at wedgeblade.net
Subject: undeteriorated Oprah tape?

I thought that subject line would get your attention, folks. This request is
in response to Gordon Harper's suggestion. We're looking for a "close to
pristine" copy of the 5th City movie on VHS. So if you have a copy, read on.

I'd like your professional opinion on the state of your copy of the 5th City
videotape. 

When you last ran the tape, were there any visible signal "glitches" or
"dropouts" on your copy that could have arisen from physical creasing,
shedding/flaking of the magnetic layer, or stretching of the base layer
(possibly with a tape edge frilled like a lasagna noodle)? 

Has there been any evidence of "wear" or slight degradation of the
image/sound over time from a high number of plays? 

Is there any element of "cooking" or overheating that could affect signal
quality or the primary integrity of the tape? 

Is it a professionally produced copy with a duplicator's name on it? (I'd
love to get that info!)

Any evidence that it was a "copy of a copy" or homemade copy of a
professionally produced copy? Like no duplicator's ID, no date, no printed
label, handwriting, or a brand label like "Scotch".

Any physical deterioration or cracking of the plastic cassette shell?

Any previous physical examination of the tape itself by you or others?

If you're gonna unlock and open the cassette's tape path cover to look at
the tape, handle with cotton gloves, don't leave fingerprints on the tape
itself, and don't play with it any more than necessary!

Thanks for your evaluation. I'd say treat your copy with loving care, and
store it away from heat sources and high humidity. Whatever you do,
eventually it will crumble into fragments and dust.

Marshall Jones

P.S. Please reply off-list!

Gordon Harper <gharper1 at gmail.com> wrote:

Marshall --

There was a time--early 90s--when ICA USA staff used that video in its Group
Facilitation Methods courses as the basis for the demo of the Focused
Conversation method.  There may still be copies (better or worse) in the
hands of folks like Wiegel, Oylers, Dennis Jennings.  My copy is certainly
available if nothing better surfaces. 

Also wondering about people like Troxel, who is in the video and worked with
the community about as long as anyone, I think.  Or Mary Laura?

Perhaps a note on Dialogue or OE just might turn up a treasure -- 

Gordon

On 9/11/07, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote: 

Gordon, the very latest bad news is that all our efforts to locate the 5th
City master tape have come to naught, and the window of opportunity is now
closed. But at least I feel better about it knowing somebody checked the
shelf while he still could. 

So our fallback position is to locate the best possible VHS copy we can, and
yours is a candidate! 

We will professionally transfer the analog video signal to digital DVD,
controlling for video noise, oversaturation, and audio hum. So it will at
least look as good as your VHS tape, and probably sound better. 

Do you have any other ideas or sources?

I'm still gonna try to locate a third party filmmaker in the Chicago area
who may have info, but it's a very long shot.

Marshall

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