[Dialogue] new E.D. for ICA

Norm and Judy Lindblad nj.lindblad at gmail.com
Sun Sep 30 12:49:35 EDT 2007


Dear Don, Marshall, and other colleagues,

I'll add these questions and concerns to our discussions and considerations
at the Living Legacy Event this next weekend.  Some of them have already
come up.  Some are new and quite useful.

Thanks, Judy Lindblad


On 9/30/07, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Don, can you imagine trying to copyright and "control" RS-1? Or control
> the creativity and engagement that it created?
>
> The "complex intellectual property" issues they are referencing are the
> copyrighted material that took the form of the ToP training. Before that
> development, the same ideas were embodied in other labels: LENS, NINS, Town
> Meeting, Human Development Consults.
>
> My best guess is that ICA-USA is trying to make a buck, certainly by
> "selling" copies of the ToP manual, but more broadly by exerting some
> control and direction over this "child" -- the ToP Facilitators -- and
> constricting its evolution by legal enforcement of the copyright, as well as
> by taking an authoritarian stance toward the group's issues.
>
> Just a clue, since I'm just a subversive bystander, not an insider.
>
> Can you imagine what Joe Mathews would have said about this development?
> Exactly thirty years ago, we lost him suddenly and prematurely. But I can
> still hear that voice booming from beyond the grave. And I know he is
> quoting Kang Byong Hoon, whose peculiarly accented words were: *"BOO
> SHEE!"* (that's Korean for B.S.).
>
> Does anyone honestly believe that if the organization were vibrantly
> alive, growing, and oriented to the future, not to mention to authentic
> service in the world beyond its fortress in Uptown, their board would be so
> focused on this one issue?
>
> Meanwhile, the Archives--and especially the most vulnerable elements:
> film, video, and audio archives--are deteriorating in uncontrolled
> conditions in the basement, without professional intervention. The entire
> common memory of the organization has been wiped out, "evicted". We've had
> regime change. And the new regime doesn't have a clue about what's down
> there, let alone what it means.
>
> So I guess now it's time to have a Living Legacy event.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
> *Don Hinkelman <hinkel at sgu.ac.jp>* wrote:
>
> The phrase in that announcement that caught my eye was about ICA-USA's
> "complex intellectual property".   I wonder what that means?
>
> As one who is heavily involved in proliferating open-source educational
> software and content, I am finding the following values useful:
> - trademarks, icons and symbols are important to protect
> - specific books, papers, forms are copyright to the authors (permission
> needed to reprint)
> - processes, ideas, and methodologies are public property and should be
> aggressively shared
>
> I am curious how others view "property".
>
> Don Hinkelman
>
>  Maybe I'm the last to know, but looks like ICA-USA has a new permanent ED
> selected:
>
> http://www.ica-usa.org/announcement.htm
>
> His last job was as Finance and Operations Director of Chicago's Gay Games
> in 2006.
>
> Marshall Jones
>
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