[Dialogue] Beret Griffith sent you anarticle from startribune.com

[James Wiegel]

Hmmm, was going to suggest a panchayat, but that
didn't last long either.


--- Dave Thomas <DavThom at att.net> wrote:

> I have joined the Tory Party.  When we assume
> control of the U.S.
> government, we will send an embassary to the Queen,
> admitting that taxation
> with representation is just as painful as the other
> kind.  And that we don't
> know how to govern ourselves.  We will ask to be
> taken back as a colony.
> Unfortunately, Britain's experience with colonialism
> will probably cause her
> to turn us down.  Dave Thomas
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
> [mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf
> Of frank bremner
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:34 PM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Beret Griffith sent you
> anarticle from
> startribune.com
> 
> 
> Thanks for the exchanges about the election process
> and content, folks.  I
> often forward various items, and items from
> AlterNet, to friends who are
> interested.  It adds the details and nuances that we
> tend not to get in the
> Australian press.
>  
> I'm reminded of an old sentence or two from the
> early 70s.  Something like
> "more people are affected by who becomes US
> president than actually get to
> vote for him/her", although the "her" was probably
> not included then.  It
> was probably said in respect of "All the decisons
> belong to all of the
> people".
>  
> A couple of my friends are wondering "What about a
> Clinton/Obama or
> Obama/Clinton ticket?"
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Frank Bremner
> >From Down Under where the Indian cricket team have
> just won a test match,
> stopping Australia's 16-wins-in-a-row record from
> going to 17.  The Aussies
> were getting a bit too cocky and arrogant, anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: abatica at hotmail.com
> To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:00:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Beret Griffith sent you an
> article from
> startribune.com
> 
> 
> 
> Charles,
> 
> The problem with "Bushie pro's" is that they think
> the rest of the U.S.
> thinks of Chavez the same way their Boss does.  I
> don't think many
> Americans, especially those who benefit from his
> energy assistance to the
> tune of a "low" $25 million (only, ha, ha, ha!) for
> heating oil think of
> Chavez the same way Bushie does.  I wonder if some
> of us need any reminding
> at all, that CITGO is owned by the Venezuelan
> government, and many of their
> gas stations are located in the poorer
> neighborhoods, simply because the
> more "established" companies like BP. ShellOil, etc.
> consider these poor
> neighborhoods to be high risks.  I could be wrong, I
> haven't heard of the
> better-known oil companies providing energy
> assistance to low-income
> households.  
> 
> So, perhaps Krauthammer should simply paint Edwards
> a la Chavez and the guy
> could just surprise us all with an improved standing
> in the polls.  Between
> a guy who bombs and occupies another country in
> search of oil, and one who
> doles it out to those who really need it...I'll
> choose the latter anytime.
> 
> Addi
> 
> 
> > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:53:01 -0800
> > From: cdhahn at flash.net
> > To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
> > Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Beret Griffith sent you an
> article from
> startribune.com
> > 
> > Sorry Beret, in re-reading my quick note I see
> that I
> > made an error. In reading between the lines it
> > appears to me that under cover of trying to bring
> to
> > light democratic slurs, this guy is really a
> Bushite
> > war pro who is afraid of any of the three being
> > elected. He cuts at all three of them too
> > hard---especially Edwards. The Chavez comparison
> is
> > just a little too revealing.
> > Charles Hahn
> > --- Beret Griffith <beretgriffith at charter.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > Beret Griffith wrote these comments: I found this
> > editorial in the Minneapolis Star Trubune thought
> > provoking.
> > 
> > This Article from StarTribune.com has been sent
> > to you by BeretGriffith.
> > *Please note, the sender's identity has not been
> > verified.
> > 
> > The full Article, with any associated images and
> > links can be viewed here.
> > Charles Krauthammer: Are we through swooning?
> > Good. Let's scrutinize Obama
> > Charles Krauthammer, Star Tribune
> > 
> > 
> > WASHINGTON - Was it the tears in the New Hampshire
> > coffee shop? Whenever there is a political upset,
> > everyone looks for the unscripted incident, the
> > I-paid-for-this-microphone moment that can account
> for
> > it. Hillary Clinton's improbable victory in New
> > Hampshire is being widely attributed to her rare
> > display of emotion when asked how she was holding
> up.
> > This "Hillary cried, Obama died" story line is
> > satisfying, but it overlooks an earlier moment
> played
> > to a national television audience of 9 million
> that
> > was even more revealing.
> > 
> > It showed a side of Barack Obama not seen before
> or
> > since. And it wasn't pretty. Asked in the Saturday
> > Democratic debate about her dearth of
> "likability,"
> > Clinton offered an answer both artful and sweet --
> > first, demurely saying her feelings were hurt and
> > mock-heroically adding that she would try to carry
> on
> > regardless, then generously conceding that Obama
> is
> > very likable and "I don't think I'm that bad."
> > 
> > At which point, Obama, yielding to some
> inexplicable
> > impulse, gave the other memorable unscripted
> moment of
> > the New Hampshire campaign -- the gratuitous
> > self-indicting aside: "You're likable enough,
> > Hillary." He said it looking down and with not a
> smile
> > but a smirk.
> > 
> > Rising rock star puts down struggling diva -- an
> > unkind cut, deeply ungracious, almost cruel, from
> a
> > candidate who had the country in a swoon over his
> > campaign of grace and uplift. The media gave that
> > moment little play, but millions saw it live, and
> I
> > could surely not have been the only one who found
> it
> > jarring.
> > 
> > It is fitting that New Hampshire should have
> turned on
> > a tear or an aside. The Democratic primary
> campaign
> > has been breathtakingly empty. What passes for
> 
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