[Dialogue] Eight more years?

[KroegerD at aol.com]

I beg to differ.  Our government was built on the premise that the  
legislative branch, the closest to the people, could mitigate executive excess  through 
legislation, and ultimately impeachment.  Ralph Nader did nothing  to cause 
our legislative leaders to fail in their duty to correct and  remove the cancer 
that is the current administration.  They  approved the judges and cabinet , 
funded the war, continued to  reauthorize the patriot act and other crimes 
against the people, and the beat  goes on. And WE elected all of these people.
 
It does not have to continue.  Think very carefully about whom you  support 
this time around.  It really does matter.  
 
 
In a message dated 1/26/2008 10:21:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
carlos at zervigon.com writes:

 
Hello  all 
A few of my  colleagues on this list serve were adamant about Nader. Some are 
no longer  with us. It did not remove my appreciation for our friendship but 
it deeply  pained me. I died a thousand deaths about Nader’s participation. 
All of those  who want to blame Gore or who then said it made no difference 
should by now  see that it made a horrible difference. I remember discussions way 
back in our  time on the west side about the fallacy of maintaining some 
illusional  personal integrity and in so doing letting the public good go to hell. 
Ralph  Nader moved from being a committed public servant to being an egoistic 
maniac.  He personally is responsible for the unbelievable disaster of the 
last eight  years and that overshadows anything else he did. His life’s work was 
finally  global tragedy. Those are harsh words but he is deserving of them. He 
has  never admitted that he contributed to the Bush disaster. To me he is 
much  worse than irrelevant 
 
Carlos R. Zervigon,  PMP 
Zervigon International,  Ltd. 
817 Antonine  St. 
New Orleans, LA  70115  USA 
504 894-9868 Mobile: 504  908-0762 
carlos at zervigon.com 
http://www.zervigon.com
 
  
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From:  dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net 
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net]  On Behalf Of  KroegerD at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:24  PM
To:  dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Eight more  years?
 
With all due  respect, David, Al Gore lost the election on his own, unable to 
carry either  Arkansas or Tennessee, either of which would have given him the 
 votes regardless of the Florida outcome.  Do you believe that  Hillary, (or 
the Clinton team) represents the highest and best  hopes of the progressive 
movement.  I surely do  not.
 

 
Dick  Kroeger 
 

 
That said, what did  you find to disagree with in Nader's piece?
 

 
 
In a message dated  1/26/2008 4:48:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, walters at a
laweb.com  writes:

"I have great  respect and confidence in Mr. Nader's work and
thought." Dick Kroeger  


With all due respect to Dick, Ralph rantings as a third  party
candidate in 2000  enabled the installation of George W bush  as
President. If Ralph had not been in the race Gore would have won  in
Florida and there would have been no need  for a recount or a decision
of the uS Supreme Court. I have zero miunus  none respect for Ralph. 
David  Walters



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