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Pictured: The Floating Cities That Could One Day House Climate Change
Refugees

At first glance, they look like a couple of giant inflatable garden chairs
that have washed out to sea.
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But they are, apparently, the ultimate solution to rapidly rising sea
levels.

This computer-generated image shows two floating cities, each with enough
room for 50,000 inhabitants.

The ‘Lilypad’ cities would be powered by renewable energy sources

Based on the design of a lilypad, they could be used as a permanent refuge
for those whose homes have been covered in water. Major cities including
London, New York and Tokyo are seen as being at huge risk from oceans which
could rise by as much as 3ft by the end of this century.

This solution, by the award-winning Belgian architect Vincent Callebaut, is
designed to be a new place to live for those whose homelands have been wiped
out.

The ‘Lilypad City’ would float around the world as an independent and
fully self-sustainable home. With a lake at its centre to collect and purify
rainwater, it would be accessed by three separate marinas and feature
artificial mountains to offer the inhabitants a change of scenery from the
seascape.

Power for the central accommodation hub is provided through a series of
renewable energy sources including solar panels on the mountain sides, wind
turbines and a power station to harness the energy of the waves.

Mr Callebaut said: ‘The design of the city is inspired by the shape of the
great Amazonia Victoria Regia lilypad. Some countries spend billions of
pounds working on making their beaches and dams bigger and stronger.

‘But the lilypad project is actually a long-term solution to the problem of
the water rising.’

The architect, who has yet to estimate a cost for his design, added: ‘It’s
an amphibious city without any roads or any cars. The whole city is covered
by plants housed in suspended gardens.

‘The goal is to create a harmonious coexistence of humans and nature.’

‘Some countries spend billions of pounds working on making their beaches
and dams bigger and stronger.

‘But the Lilypad project is actually a long term solution to the problem of
the water rising.

‘And it has the other objective of providing housing for refugees from
islands that have been submerged.’

The Lilypad city would house climate change refugees

Centred around a lake which collects and then purifies rain water, the
Lilypad will drift around the world following the ocean currents and
streams.

It will be accessed by three marinas and will also feature three
‘mountains’ to offer the inhabitants a change of scenery.

Power will be provided through a series of renewable energy sources
including solar, thermal, wind energy, hydraulic and a tidal power station.

The city will actually produce much more energy than it consumes and be
entirely ‘zero-emission’ as all the carbon-dioxide and the waste will be
recycled.

Mr Callebaut added: ‘It’s an amphibious city without any roads or any
cars.
‘The whole city is covered by plants housed in suspended gardens. The goal
is to create a harmonious coexistence of humans and nature.

‘I think trying to accomodate the millions of people left homeless by
environmental changes will prove to be one of the great challenges of the
21st century.’

Neither the cost of building the city or the cost of living there have been
revealed.

According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the
global sea level is expected to rise between nine and 88 centimetres by
2100, with a ‘best estimate’ of 50 centimetres.

This is due to global warming which is causing the ice caps to melt.

In many places, 50 centimetres would see entire beaches being washed away,
together with a significant chunk of the coastline.

On low-lying Pacific islands such as Tuvalu, Kiribati or the Maldives, the
highest point is only two or three metres above current sea levels.

If the sea level was to rise by 50cm, significant portions of these islands
would be washed away by erosion or covered by water.

Even if they remain above the sea, many island nations will have their
supplies of drinking water reduced because sea water will invade their
freshwater stocks.

There are also tens of millions of people living in low-level coastal areas
of southern Asia, such as the coastlines of Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka,
Bangladesh and Burma, who would be in danger.

(c) 2008 Associated Newspapers Ltd

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47 Comments so far

1.

	kelmer July 4th, 2008 1:43 pm

	Ribbet.

2.

	goodwordswan <http://goodwordswan.wildflowerstew.com>  July 4th,
2008 1:52 pm

	give me a break - how about my condo on the dark side of the moon?

3.

	coco July 4th, 2008 1:52 pm

	considering there are (according to the article) ‘tens of milions
of people who would be in danger’ of rising seas, how many of these ‘lily
pads’ would be needed when they can only accommodate 50,000? and who’s
gonna pay for them? sounds like a big ‘fun fair’ at sea…………..

4.

	Clark Kent <http://www.dailyplanet.com>  July 4th, 2008 1:52 pm

	The Kermitage?  :-)
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5.

	Clark Kent <http://www.dailyplanet.com>  July 4th, 2008 1:57 pm

	But seriously, it doesn’t look like it could handle a 100 ft. storm
wave or Tsunami (although it’s difficult to estimate scale from this
photo). Might need to be bigger to be safe long term. And probably further
from shore. Nonetheless, a very, very good and appropriate idea that should
be pursued.

6.

	Paco Mitchell July 4th, 2008 1:58 pm

	Let’s not call this a “solution.” It’s a desperate, make-shift
attempt put a Happy Face on disaster. But at least they’re talking about
the melting of the ice caps, not pretending that we can avoid it..

7.

	joneden July 4th, 2008 2:03 pm

	How about a condom? I forgot-there is the issue of having to dispose
of billions every day.

8.

	joneden July 4th, 2008 2:05 pm

	A Great Idea-just so long as there is buck in it!

9.

	joneden July 4th, 2008 2:10 pm

	How about floating prisons-preferably some place close to the
equator-for all the politicians, media whores, and corporate criminals that
brought us this disaster.

	It could be a two-fer: On their vacated ranches and mega estates,
there might be plenty of room for condo development to build new lives for
the refugees.

	www.StudentsForTheEarth.org

10.

	adrienrain <http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/pmblues>  July 4th, 2008 2:
18 pm

	Finally, Buckminster Fuller’s ideas will get some attention. Had we
begun implementing them some time ago, maybe we wouldn’t be so desperate.

	Someone should start building one of these NOW. And GIVE them to the
Maldive Islanders, etc., who are the victims of our ‘fabulous’ lifestyle.

	I only hope this signals the end of corporate rule, rather than the
beginning. Other ideas pioneedred by Bucky Fuller have been perverted in the
interests of greed - exactly the pposite of his intention.

11.

	lobster <http://NONE>  July 4th, 2008 2:43 pm

	Some paragraphs appear at least twice.
Some paragraphs appear at least twice.

12.

	george w. bush July 4th, 2008 3:26 pm

	Jacque Fresco was advocating and designing these cities 30 or 40
years ago. See: thevenusproject.com

13.

	awbloss July 4th, 2008 3:42 pm

	They don’t have to float. It is easier to make a big dome in a
desert, cheap land, sunshine, and solid earth to build on. And space for
more solar panels if needed.

14.

	wilmoor July 4th, 2008 3:52 pm

	The track we’re on, I’d say “Waterworld” (as in the movie some
years back) will be more like what we’ll see.

15.

	lobster <http://NONE>  July 4th, 2008 4:03 pm

	awbloss: What’ll they use for water in the desert? Also, land in
the desert is not cheap anymore.

16.

	Galen July 4th, 2008 4:18 pm

	Ummm… question?

	What are they going to build these things out of? And what will they
use to power the machines to build them? Where will they get the food to
support the refugees? What will the refugees do to be a contributing part of
society? What other country would be happy to see a load of ocean-borne
freeloaders showing up on their doorsteps? What would the refugees do if a
‘lilypad’ ran aground? Who says that nations desperate for resources
wouldn’t attack and loot a ‘lilypad’? What would Israel do to a
Palestinian ‘lilypad’?

	And lastly, wouldn’t the only ‘refugees’ who could afford to live
on one of these things be the wealthiest percentage of their particular
nations, given how monumentally expensive these things will be to create in
the first place??

	Heres an old joke to go out on: ‘Neurotics build castles in the
sky. Psychotics live in them. Psychologists collect the rent.’

17.

	willybill July 4th, 2008 4:29 pm

	Yeah..right…they’ll take care of the people as they did the levies
and inhabitants of New Orleans.

18.

	david.peace2002 July 4th, 2008 4:39 pm

	“New York and Tokyo are seen as being at huge risk from oceans
which could rise by as much as 3ft by the end of this century.”

	The USGS, the governments own scientists, estimates that the seas
will rise about 80 meters! Three feet and the world’s coastal cities could
deal with that and just build a relatively small wall. Lilly pad cities to
house the refugees from coasts? We’ll also need some for the far inland
refugees who will have beach front property for a short while.

	http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

19.

	bbr-001 July 4th, 2008 5:06 pm

	This article and the one about Canada are lifeboat strategies. It
will be a terrible time if these things are needed or we all walk to Canada,
and the survival percentage will be low.

20.

	grandma July 4th, 2008 5:23 pm

	david.peace.2002 - Your math is wrong or maybe you expressed it
badly. 80 meters is 260 feet (80m x 39″ = 3120″, divided by 12 = 260
feet). Now that’s serious -

21.

	plenum July 4th, 2008 5:29 pm

	Stupid-est solution I’ve read yet. 50,000 on a huge life-raft? No
sane person would want to live on the water that took his home and land!!
They will want to move INLAND, you idiot! Ignoring the CAUSE of the solution
(rising co2 and soon, methane levels) and propose what amounts to an
expensive floating concentration camp of humans which could be sunk in 15
minutes ridding “excess” population that the powerful won’t have to kill
in the future anyway. Fix the problem! Don’t create the illusion of a
solution by avoiding the problem! It just creates a new, more technological
problem. Putting 50,000 people on a raft isn’t the answer no matter the
size of the raft.
Hey, the computer model looks great at 2,000 feet - what’s it look like on
the human scale, down on the street in one of these things?
Idiot fucking architects. Smart, but often sensless.

22.

	plenum July 4th, 2008 5:33 pm

	This reminds me of the “ship of fools”, when lunatics were put out
to sea to fend for themselves, often sinking in the ocean and ridding the
rest of civilization of the problems of care,feeding,etc…. Again, an
idiotic idea, all over again.

23.

	stcfarms July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm

	The problem is atmospheric carbon, the solution is water, some
places have
too much and others too little. If we pump the water from areas that have
too much water to the arid regions for irrigation we could actually lower
the concentration of atmospheric carbon. I offer as proof the NOAA CO2 chart
 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/carbonlevels/  the chart clearly shows
that CO2 levels drop by 6 ppm every northern hemisphere summer. I attribute
this to the fact that more vegetation is growing during the northern
hemisphere summer. At the rate of 6 ppm per year it would take about 18
years to reach the carbon level set in 1750 AD, after that a certain amount
of carbon would have to be added to the atmosphere to keep the carbon level
at that point. If carbon were allowed to drop below a set limit it would
trigger an ice age.

	Cheap rafts made from waste plastic bottles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Island  could collect rainfall from the
oceans and produce energy at the same time. There are millions of square
miles of arid land (expanding daily) that could be used to grow vegetation
if only enough pure water were made available, the rafts could supply all
the water needed. Since the rafts would cover millions of square miles of
ocean they would lower the water temperature and provide a marine life
breeding
sanctuary from overfishing.

	The reclaimed desert areas would provide small farms for refugees
and the
homeless. Since the islands can be made at almost no cost using simple hand
tools there would be jobs for billions of third world workers and ensuring
that they have good food, clean water and adequate housing. If the rich
nations do not want to give up their lifestyle then they had better take
notice of the world around them and fix the problem.

24.

	dkm July 4th, 2008 6:19 pm

	Only one post has mentioned it, but serious consideration should be
given to what happens during a storm. Remember that hurricanes will be a lot
more powerful because of the energy they derive from the warmer water.
Tsunamis won’t be a problem as long as they are far enough out because
those waves don’t break until they get near land. Wind derived waves are a
different story.

25.

	grandma July 4th, 2008 6:31 pm

	I suggest that all hands read Tim Flannery’s book “The Weather
Makers” - 2006 revision (paperback). This gives a very clear and detailed
picture of what we’re up aganst. Not good and our climate may already be
out of control and unable to be stopped. in other words, nothing to laugh
about.

26.

	riddimboy July 4th, 2008 6:35 pm

	This is sweet. Fu!@#ck the rest of the world up with our carbon
emissions and retire into ‘green’ cities. Anyone willing to guess what
segment of the population will make up the 50,000 inhabitants ??

27.

	Simple Sauce July 4th, 2008 6:39 pm

	You’ve gotta be kidding. I’m not surprised at all that the
not-so-rich would be building community yachts for those who can’t afford
their own, but taking this seriously is ridiculous. None of these will ever
be used to house refugees, they’ll instead be substitute third or fourth
homes for those whose seaside villas wind up in the drink. The poor will be
left to rot as we always have been.

28.

	cryptopathocracy July 4th, 2008 6:58 pm

	Can I get one with refridgerated armrest pouches to keep by Bud
Light cool???
What happens when the Happy Lilypadlians become nationalistic and start
singing “MY LILYPAD UBER ALLES” ??? They start attacking each other by
de-gassing their floatation devices???
This definately has potential for a summer blockbuster film, but as a
serious solution… I’m with the previous poster building his condo on the
dark side of the moon.

29.

	ubrew12 July 4th, 2008 7:16 pm

	Unintended subtext (or maybe intended): See? Global Warming is just
an opportunity for us to be creative, and invent new utopia’s with
nonexistent capital for the worlds disposessed. We don’t have the cash or
political will to do something about global warming today, but tomorrow
(having drowned half our manufacturing capability), we’ll be making entire
cities out of inner-tubes!! Utopia indeed. No cigarettes allowed!

30.

	rickg July 4th, 2008 7:44 pm

	I just noticed that the credit for the photo is by Solent News.
Sounds eerily close to Soylent, as in Soylent Green.

	This idea, although very creative in its own right, unfortunately
also helps to prop up the myth that there’s nothing to worry about;
technology will save us. The truth is that IF we are to be saved (no
guarantees that it’s already too late), it will be because enough of us
have the wisdom and courage to radically reorder the way we live on this
planet. And the first step in that journey is to internalize our total
interdependence with all life.

	“… The time for the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish
the word struggle from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now
must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration. We are the ones we’ve
been waiting for.”

31.

	canuckchuck July 4th, 2008 8:04 pm

	De-evolution incarnate…back to the ocean with you all.

	I bet they will be really comfortable in the 200 degree heat.

32.

	canuckchuck July 4th, 2008 8:08 pm

	anyone see the movie Zardoz? Reminds me of the “Vortex”

	“The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and
makes new life to poison the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But
the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go
forth… and kill! ”

	Actually, now that I look at it, Bush is Zardoz!!

33.

	KEM PATRICK July 4th, 2008 8:51 pm

	And the man built Titanic was unsinkable. Oops!

	Dream on. How about finding water on Mars and seeding it with
phytoplankton? That is just as sensible as this dream.

	http://www.whyplankton.com

34.

	shakker July 4th, 2008 10:46 pm

	After WW2 they were designing home hangars so that everyone could
park their personal aircraft right in suburbia. This looks like an even
better idea. We could power them with the electricity from the nuke plants
that are too cheap to meter.

35.

	Galen July 4th, 2008 11:27 pm

	What’s next?

	‘Jetsons’ style apartments on two slender poles and folding
briefcase flying cars?

	Who else in here thinks that the so-called ‘futurists’ aren’t
rowing with both oars in the water?

36.

	gde July 4th, 2008 11:55 pm

	I WAG an area of 150-200 hectares, based on the drawings, for 50K
people. If there are 10^6 m^2 usable area for aggie, that’s 20 m^2 per
person. Fine for a vegetable garden, I doubt it is anywhere near enough to
make a major contribution to the calories needed.

	Also, there are 20K cities needed for 1G people.

37.

	coco July 5th, 2008 12:24 am

	GALEN

	yeah, the light’s on, but nobody’s home…………..

38.

	TurnoffyourTV July 5th, 2008 1:18 am

	Someone went to fantasy land. Up there with flying cars.

39.

	David B July 5th, 2008 2:31 am

	Strange-what will the floating cities be made of, and will there be
soil to grow food? Wouldn’t it be better to simply address and correct the
climate change problem?

40.

	bbr-001 July 5th, 2008 7:07 am

	You guys reminded me of an old Star Trek episode. They found a
planet with floating city called Stratos where the elite lived. The planet’
s surface had been ruined by mining and industrial activity.

41.

	bbr-001 July 5th, 2008 7:08 am

	(Floating in or above the atmosphere.)

42.

	coco July 5th, 2008 7:24 am

	BBR001

	they must be out of their ‘vulcan’ minds…………….

43.

	queerplanet July 5th, 2008 7:51 am

	The population of the planet increases at three people per second.
That is the problem. All those people consuming resources is the problem.
Where do all the building materials for these floating cities come from?

	People who make things like this ignore the fundamental problem.

	Overpopulation and the consumptions of resources causes by
overpopulation. Until people address that, then all else is nonsense.

	It’s like recycling. In the end the population grows faster than
people can recycle.

44.

	Chakra Khan July 5th, 2008 12:22 pm

	These look more like giant escape pods for rich people. Too bad we
cant load them all up on one right not, and then sink it!

45.

	chimpeach July 5th, 2008 1:00 pm

	Sounds like one of those Yes Men deals. Similar (on a smaller scale)
to this:

	http://www.theyesmen.org/en/hijinks/survivaball

46.

	david.peace2002 July 5th, 2008 1:04 pm

	stcfarms July 4th, 2008 5:44 pm:
There’s plenty of plastic in the Pacific to use to build these jokes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/19/SS6JS8RH0.DTL
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/19/SS6JS8RH0.DTL&h
w=pacific+patch&sn=001&sc=1000> &hw=pacific+patch&sn=001&sc=1000

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/oceans/pollution/trash-vor
tex

47.

	Thea July 5th, 2008 4:08 pm

	stcfarms said:
“The problem is atmospheric carbon, the solution is water, some places have
too much and others too little. If we pump the water from areas that have
too much water to the arid regions for irrigation we could actually lower
the concentration of atmospheric carbon.”

	The problem is not just pumping water to the desert - deserts are
not arable land - they have no nutrients in the soil, all they have is sand.
Water is not all they need - they need real dirt that contains the nutrients
that plant life needs. Pumping water to the desert will not solve the
problem.

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