[Dialogue] gas prices - we can do

Tue Mar 18 09:30:26 EDT 2008

I appreciate George's and Jim's comments - but as 
I see it the problem is that we the world are 
going to hell in a handbasket unless we all get 
serious about global warming - and to my mind 
that means finding alternatives to the oil economy.

It means that, for US citizens in particular, 
there is a HUGE gap to be traversed before there 
is even a half-serious nod made to the realities 
of global warning. And it is indeed to the credit 
of Al Gore that in the midst of his particular 
culture he has been able to decide to devote his 
energy to getting people even to consider 
changing the way they live for the sake of the planet.

Apparently there is no alternative to the oil 
economy. If that is indeed the case, then we are doomed.

I learnt all I know about revolutionary and 
progressive theology from the United States. I 
still fervently hope that the US can still be the 
cradle for serious action on global warming.

Love to all

Adam

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At 12:39 18/03/2008, you wrote:
>The difficulty in this is that gas stations do 
>not necessarily get their gas from an Exxon or 
>Mobil "gas truck," even if they are a branded 
>station. I've seen gas trucks deliver gas to 
>independents and branded stations within blocks 
>of each other.   If you are buying gas the oil 
>industry is getting their money.  The price of 
>crude and refinery costs are so manipulated from 
>futures markets to local pricing that it would 
>take more of a genius than I've met so far to 
>explain how gas gets priced.  As Adam points out 
>the U.S. has had some of the lowest prices in 
>the world over the years, and it would seem the 
>devaluation of the dollar that is causing the 
>price of crude to rise.  If Oil begins to be 
>sold using another currency such as the Euro 
>(right now US dollars are the currency for 
>buying oil in world markets) the price of gas in the U.S. will go much higher.
>
>The only answer I've seen is don't drive so 
>much, get a Prius if you have the money, push 
>and use public transport, use and push for green 
>energy.  The world's economy is an oil 
>economy.  It's not just gas, we use oil products 
>in just about everything that's manufactured, 
>grown, etc.  Getting people educated as to how 
>oil economy works might be a more important 
>component than we think.  I am always surprised 
>at learning a little bit of how this thing works, and I'm not sure I know.
>
>George Holcombe
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>
>On Mar 18, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Kay Fulkerson wrote:
>
>>This will work—we must stick to it.  The one thing that will make it fail is
>>when they drop prices 25 cents, everyone may go to them because it is
>>cheaper.  Please Don't!  Hold your ground and force it down more.  You will
>>pay more this month, but the long term benefit will drive it down
>>permanently.  The long term goal will outweigh the short term pain.  LET’S
>>STICK WITH IT!
>>
>>This was sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from an engineer
>>buddy—retired from Halliburton. I f you are tired of the gas prices going up
>>AND they will continue to, read this please. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than
>>the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign!  Join the resistance!!!!  I
>>hear we will hit close to $ 4.00 a gallon by next summer—or higher!!
>>
>>We need to take intelligent, united action.  The oil companies and OPEC
>>nations conditioned us to think the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at
>>$1.50 - $1.75.  We need to take aggressive action and teach them BUYERS
>>control the marketplace—not sellers.
>>
>>The way to see the price come down is to hit the pocketbook by not
>>purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.  Since
>>we all rely on our cars, we can't stop buying.  We CAN have an impact on
>>prices with a price war.
>>
>>For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest
>>companies, EXXON and MOBIL.  If they are not selling gas, they will be
>>inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other
>>companies will follow suit. We need to reach millions of Exxon and Mobil
>>buyers—it's simple to do!
>>
>>I’m sending this to 30 people. If each of us send to at least ten more (30 x
>>10 = 300) ... and the 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000),
>>by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we have reached
>>over THREE MILLION consumers.
>>
>>If those three million pass it on to ten friends, then 30 million people
>>will be contacted! If it goes one level further—THREE HUNDRED MILLION
>>PEOPLE!!!  Please send to 10 people.  The math when you simply repeat the
>>process.
>>
>>                                         acumulative number     total
>>I sent it to 30 people                        30                   30
>>They all send it to 10 people           300                 330
>>They all send it to 10 people         3000               3330
>>They all send it to 10 people       30000             33330
>>They all send it to 10 people      300000          333330
>>They all send it to 10 people    3000000        3333330
>>
>>If we all send to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION
>>people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!   I'll bet
>>you didn't think we had such potential!  Let us make a difference. If this
>>makes sense to you, please pass this on.  Suggest not to buy from
>>EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $2.00 RANGE AND KEEP THEM
>>DOWN.   Keeping in mind, they will lower the prices if NO ONE BUYS, BUT we
>>must continue not to buy.  Don't give in when it falls lower than $3, or
>>$2.50, hold steady until it falls below $2.00
>>
>>Let’s really unite and serve each other and ourselves!
>>
>>
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