[Dialogue] enter the Terminator

[Adelbert Batica]

Marshall Jones -

This is indeed a fun show you're watching in California.  Only in Hollywood!  The citizens of California should follow Marshall Chu Teh's words of wisdom during "The Long March":  "Sit down and watch the tigers fight!"  Nothing like watching an intraparty intramurals.  Over and out, they'll "self-destruct".

Addi


Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:16:09 -0700
From: synergi at yahoo.com
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: [Dialogue] enter the Terminator

Potentially the most interesting political development in California may be Gov. Schwarzenegger's opposition to the constitutional amendment ballot initiative. I'm no great fan of the Guv, but if he puts his fundraising where his mouth is, we'll see a moderate Republican using his personal prestige and raising lots of $$ to defeat a right-wing Republican political juggernaut, and thus potentially adversely affecting the California vote for John McBush.  Pinch me--I must be dreaming.  But read http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/16/BASD10NVAI.DTL&tsp=1  Marshall  

darrell walker <darrell66 at earthlink.net> wrote:          Marshall, et al,      A further political note on the California Supreme Court decision on gay marriage.  Six of the seven justices on the Supreme Court are Republicans.  Of the four-justice majority, three were Republicans.  The six Republicans split evenly on the decision.  Also Governor Schwarzenegger will oppose the constitutional amendment in the fall.  All of which is to say, in spite of appearances to the contrary at times, not all California Republicans are the blithering idiots they appear to be elsewhere.  I say that in defense of the thirty-five years I spent as a Republican before waking up in the gutter during the Reagan era and becoming a Democrat.      Darrell
 Walker in  Lincoln, CA, outside of Sacramento    ----- Original Message -----   From: W. J.   To: oe at wedgeblade.net ; dialogue at wedgeblade.net   Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:55 PM  Subject: [Dialogue] cultural quake hits California;national backlash expected  
  Today, in the midst of a tropical heatwave in northern California, our state's Supreme Court
 declared that to deny marriage to any couple is to brand them as second class citizens. In a month, for the first time ever, fully ten percent of US citizens will be able to marry whomever they choose.     Starting tomorrow, Californians expect every rich right-wing bigot in the country to join in the coming political fray by raising multiple millions of U$D for the right-wing organizations that have put an amendment on the November ballot to roll back the court decision and enshrine discrimination in the state constitution.     Bottom line is, it ain't over till it's over. Today's court decision will provoke a major call to arms by the vast right-wing conspiracy, hopefully their last gasp before they're buried in a Democratic landslide in November.     The backlash from this decision may have a huge impact on national politics. The money that will flow to California to support the amendment may shift the outcome of the presidential election. If the amendment prevails, California will go to Senator John McBush, and that means that Barack will be history like Kerry, Gore, and Dukakis. Which may give Hillary another shot in 2012.     On a more personal note: some of my friends were plaintiffs in this case, and one of them is a child of an interracial couple whose marriage was made legal by a decision of the California Supreme Court in 1948.     Finally, I am grateful that for the first time, I will be able to conduct legal marriage ceremonies for same-gender couples in California as a United Methodist clergyman. If anyone chooses to bring a complaint to my
 bishop, I'll be very happy to participate in a church trial.      The United Methodist Discipline prohibits clergy from conducting 'ceremonies of homosexual union,' but it does not prohibit clergy from officiating at (some) legal marriages permitted by the state. To do so would place the church in a position of discriminating against a minority of its members whom the state allows to marry.     Marshall Jones                 _______________________________________________
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