[Dialogue] Looking to Tuesday . . .

George Holcombe geowanda at earthlink.net
Sat Nov 1 10:53:51 EDT 2008


I read this a while back and have been passing it around.  There is  
also a Moyers show you can view on his website with the interview of  
Bacevich.  I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more play in the media, but  
then again it may not be their schitck.  Right now my copy is loaned  
out, but I would be glad to retrieve it and give it a study a whirl.

George Holcombe
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On Nov 1, 2008, at 9:40 AM, James Wiegel wrote:

> "Yet to imagine that installing a particular individual in the Oval  
> Office will produce decisive action on any of these fronts  
> (terrorism and nuclear weapons, climate change and poverty, genocide  
> and disease) is to succomb to the grandest delusion of all.  The  
> quadrennial ritual of electing (or reelecting) a president is not an  
> exercise in promoting change, regardless of what candidates may  
> claim and ordinary voters believe.  The real aim is to ensure  
> continuity, to keep intact the institutions and arrangements that  
> define present-day Washington."  Andrew J. Bacevich, The Limits of  
> Power, p. 171.
>
> "If you think the City of Chicago is going to elect a new mayor  
> every 4 years and he is going to come out here and do your work for  
> you, you're wrong.  If this community is going to be different it  
> will be because of you.  You're going to have to do it yourself"   
> Verdell Trice, paraphrased from the Fifth City video.
>
> hmmm . . . .
>
> I just finished reading The Limits of Power.  Anyone interested in  
> forming a discussion group to study it?
>
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