[Dialogue] MSM

W. J. synergi at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 14 12:06:49 CDT 2009


In the late '50's and '60's the MSM flowered as a radical element of Methodism, influenced by the Christian Faith-and-Life Community, the Ecumenical Institute, and the civil rights movement. Martin Luther King addressed a national convocation of Methodist students in Lincoln in 1965 (I covered it for New World Outlook). Art Brandenburg at Duke and Yale taught EI courses and put students through the same curriculum that was developed in Austin. Sandra Cason ('Casey') Hayden went from CF&LC in Austin to found SDS and work for SNCC. With his usual flair, Al Lingo was all over the civil rights movement. Hillary Rodham took RS-1 and went on to college as an awakened student. EI's Summer programs started with a cadre of college students in 1965. Many of the EI staff came out of campus ministry ... Philbrook and many others. Troxel and many others were college students radicalized by people like Engelman. B.J. Stiles, who's still around, got the axe in
 Nashville as the final editor of motive magazine after he published the Death issue (containing JWM's 'The Time My Father Died') and went on to head the RFK Foundation. Etc, etc, etc.
Nowadays the acronym 'MSM' means 'men who have sex with men.' Which leads me to wonder whether that's such a strange leap after all, given the reality of the sexual revolution of the '60's. Nowadays the radical right wing nuts are still trying to shut down the whole culture, just as they took control of Methodism and pretty much shut down the entire movement towards relevance. 
The ultra-radicals (like moi) shook the dust off our feet, packed up, moved to Chicago's West Side, and started a religious order of cultural revolutionaries. 
So . . . whatever happened to that dynamic in history? Who the hell shut us down?
Marshall



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Hi All,
I was involved in the MSM from 1948-1953.  It was a powerful movement as was the Methodist Youth Fellowship.  After leaving the staff of the ei/ica in 1986 and returning to the pastorate, I inquired about the absence of the MSM and radically fewer Wesley Foundations and the weakening of the MYF?  I think it can be traced back to sometine in the 60's when the conserviatives of the church merged the General Board of Education into the General Bard of Evangelism.  All the great dynamism of the youth and student meovements and their publications just withered away.  If any of you were active in local chuches or Annual Conferences at that time, could you confirm or correct this?  I know it is not important for many on the list, but it might be a clue to how great movements wither.
Grace and Peace to all,
Charles




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Yes, Frank,
    Bill Grow and I were both involved with the Methodist Student Movement at Yale University in New Haven, Conn. Bill from1951-55, me inm 1953-54. and both of us, somewhat, from 1958 to 1961.  
        Nan Grow
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>From: frank bremner 
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>Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:05 PM
>Subject: [Dialogue] FW: [scmfriends] Renate Howe's History of the ASCM 'A Centure of Influence' is now published [1 Attachment]
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>Good morning again!
> 
>The following book - see below - covers the history of the Australian Student Christian Movement 1896-1996.  Lots of people were influenced by the ASCM's presence on university campuses.  I got involved with the SCM thanks to the old "being the church where you are" image from EI in the late 1960s.
> 
>Have any of you had experience in the Methodist Student Movement (name?) and similar groups in the USA?  I know Terry Loomis did.  
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>And the MSM's magazine Motive published some writing by JWM, and an article or two which we used in EI/ICA courses.  
> 
>Robin Boyd's The Witness of the SCM is a personal history from experience in Northern Ireland, London, India and Australia.  Risto Lehtonen's Story of a Storm: The Ecumenical Student Movement in the Turmoil of Revolution provides an international perspective.  Lehtonen
> was active in the "politicisation" revoution of the late 60s and early 70s, a trend which I though was not comprehensive enough, and thus I found the EI/ICA tradition more persuasive.
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>Does anyone have any background in that "storm"?  Or reflections on it?  Are there good US and other books looking at it?
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>Cheers 
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>Frank Bremner  
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>From: helenh at alphalink.com.au
>Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:33:31 +1000
>Subject: [scmfriends] Renate Howe's History of the ASCM 'A Centure of Influence' is now published [1 Attachment]
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>[Attachment(s) from Helen M Hill included below] 
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>We are very pleased to announce that the centennial history of the Movement has been published (July 2009) by University of New South Wales Press.
>In 1993 a Group of Friends of the ASCM was formed and began to prepare for the writing of a history of the Movement. The General Committee of the ASCM enthusiastically endorsed the idea.
>Academic historian Dr Renate Howe, an associate professor at Deakin University, was invited to become its author with support from the University as well as the ASCM Centennial History Working Group.
>The Centenary of the ASCM was celebrated in 1996 at a Centenary Gathering in Canberra attended by over three hundred SCMers covering six generations from the 1920s onwards. This event provided an important impetus to the project especially in helping to facilitate the more than 70 extended oral interviews which have been so foundational for the subsequent history.
>The now completed work is a history of a very influential movement in so many aspects of Australia’s social and political development in the 20th Century. It also provides a perspective on the history of Australian universities during this period, covering nation-defining debates on the possibility of belief, issues of peace and war, and Australia’s relationship with Asia. It was in the SCM that so many students formed their attitudes, often found their life long partners, and developed a commitment that would sustain them through their lives.
>Additional information about the publication is available on the Flyer (PDF file - 86Kb) and by means of publication Endorsements. SCM Friends and Supporters can make discounted early bird purchases by printing and mailing the Order Form (PDF file - 86Kb) or phoning Wendy Taylor on 0408 619 905
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