[Dialogue] radically fewer Wesley Foundations and the weakening of the MYF

KarenBueno at aol.com KarenBueno at aol.com
Fri Aug 14 18:00:50 CDT 2009 

In my experience, the 60s were the time when youth (not exclusively, but  
especially) began to question the mythologies of the Christian faith which 
had  been presented to them as realities.  RS1 addressed this by 
demythologizing  the great four items the church espoused: God, Christ, Holy Spirit and  
Church.  Many, if not most youth, missed that, and instead took on the  
cynicism of realizing that they might have been "duped" in Sunday School, and  
asked to believe that which was untrue.  
 
Along with the civil rights movement, (they could no longer believe in the  
superiority of the white people), the birth control pill (they could no 
longer  believe that women did not have the right to decide on pregnancy), rock 
music,  (mom and dad's sentimental music didn't fit any more), Vietnam (the 
USA didn't  have the right to govern other peoples) the societal values 
changed.
 
If Charles is right and the Methodist church joined education and  
evangelism, that would have furthered the cynicism.
 
I was active in MYF in the 50s, and in leadership of MYF in the 60s.   I 
don't see that kind of fervor for the church from youth today.  I really  do 
not have any experience in the Student Movement, but the times began a great  
exodus from the mainline churches.
 
Karen Bueno
 
 
In a message dated 8/14/2009 8:57:11 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
cdhahn at flash.net writes:

 
Hi All,
I was involved in the MSM from 1948-1953.  It was a powerful  movement as 
was the Methodist Youth Fellowship.  After leaving the  staff of the ei/ica 
in 1986 and returning to the pastorate, I inquired about  the absence of the 
MSM and radically fewer Wesley Foundations and the  weakening of the MYF?  I 
think it can be traced back to sometine in the  60's when the 
conserviatives of the church merged the General Board  of Education into the General Bard 
of Evangelism.  All the great dynamism  of the youth and student meovements 
and their publications just withered  away.  If any of you were active in 
local chuches or Annual Conferences  at that time, could you confirm or 
correct this?  I know it is not  important for many on the list, but it might be 
a clue to how great movements  wither.
Grace and Peace to all,
Charles


 
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Yes, Frank,
    Bill Grow and I were both involved  with the Methodist Student Movement 
at Yale University in New Haven, Conn.  Bill from1951-55, me inm 1953-54. 
and both of us, somewhat, from 1958 to  1961.  
        Nan  Grow

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Good morning again!

The following book - see  below - covers the history of the Australian 
Student Christian Movement  1896-1996.  Lots of people were influenced by the 
ASCM's presence on  university campuses.  I got involved with the SCM thanks 
to the old  "being the church where you are" image from EI in the late  1960s.

Have any of you had experience in the Methodist Student  Movement (name?) 
and similar groups in the USA?  I know Terry Loomis  did.  

And the MSM's magazine Motive published  some writing by JWM, and an 
article or two which we used in EI/ICA  courses.  

Robin Boyd's The Witness of the SCM is  a personal history from experience 
in Northern Ireland, London, India and  Australia.  Risto Lehtonen's Story 
of a Storm: The Ecumenical  Student Movement in the Turmoil of Revolution 
provides an international  perspective.  Lehtonen was active in the 
"politicisation" revoution of  the late 60s and early 70s, a trend which I though was 
not comprehensive  enough, and thus I found the EI/ICA tradition more  
persuasive.

Does anyone have any background in that  "storm"?  Or reflections on it?  
Are there good US and other books  looking at it?

Cheers 

Frank  Bremner  


 
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Date:  Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:33:31 +1000
Subject: [scmfriends] Renate Howe's  History of the ASCM 'A Centure of 
Influence' is now published [1  Attachment]


 
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We are very pleased to announce that the centennial history of the  
Movement has been published (July 2009) by University of New South Wales  Press.
In 1993 a Group of Friends of the ASCM was formed and began to  prepare for 
the writing of a history of the Movement. The General Committee  of the 
ASCM enthusiastically endorsed the idea.
Academic historian Dr  Renate Howe, an associate professor at Deakin 
University, was invited to  become its author with support from the University as 
well as the ASCM  Centennial History Working Group.
The Centenary of the ASCM was  celebrated in 1996 at a Centenary Gathering 
in Canberra attended by over  three hundred SCMers covering six generations 
from the 1920s onwards. This  event provided an important impetus to the 
project especially in helping to  facilitate the more than 70 extended oral 
_interviews_ (http://www.ascm.org.au/publications_historybook_interviews.html)  
which  have been so foundational for the subsequent history.
The now completed  work is a history of a very influential movement in so 
many aspects of  Australia’s social and political development in the 20th 
Century. It also  provides a perspective on the history of Australian 
universities during this  period, covering nation-defining debates on the possibility 
of belief,  issues of peace and war, and Australia’s relationship with 
Asia. It was in  the SCM that so many students formed their attitudes, often 
found their life  long partners, and developed a commitment that would sustain 
them through  their lives.
Additional information about the publication is available on  the _Flyer_ 
(http://www.ascm.org.au/files/article_acenturyofinfluence.pdf)  (PDF file - 
86Kb) and by means of publication _Endorsements_ 
(http://www.ascm.org.au/publications_historybook_endorsements.html) . SCM  Friends and Supporters can 
make discounted early bird purchases by printing  and mailing the _Order Form_ 
(http://www.ascm.org.au/files/article_acenturyofinfluence.pdf)  (PDF file - 
86Kb) or phoning Wendy Taylor on 0408 619  905



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