[Dialogue] [Oe List ...] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy

Herman Greene hfgreene at mindspring.com
Mon Sep 20 13:36:42 CDT 2010 

Not asking you to agree but 

ICA-USA does its work through innovative programs based upon indicative
processes of experiential learning and facilitation

Continues the practice of using vapid words without content. This would also
fit an adult products store.

Herman

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As many of you know, I have been working on a new story about ICA-USA that
starts with "why," talks about "how," and then ends with "what." In the HOW
section I say:  "ICA-USA does its work through innovative programs based
upon indicative processes of experiential learning and facilitation."

These, of course, are tightly packed words. The point, however, is that the
"indicative" has to do with the dynamics being described in this dialogue as
the "new pedagogy." I personally also think that when done well, this is
precisely what our facilitation is all about, i.e., "enabling people to see
the significance of their situation and to build a responsible plan of
action" (which is how I talk about the "why" of ICA-USA programming).

Terry 

On 20 Sep 2010, at 11:46, R Williams wrote:

> George,
>  
> I think yours is a critical insight, and I like Bill's word "emerging."
It is not and never was "our" movement.  We didn't start it and we will not
end it.  But we can participate in it.  I like what Martin Buber said,
"Listen to what is emerging inthe course of being in the world...to
participate in having it emerge as it wants to emerge."
>  
> Wiegel's earlier reading of Joanna Macy has two good examples of what is
emerging--a culture and civilization focused on sustaining life, and the
breaking down of a production oriented society.  There are numerous ways
everyone can participate in those, individually and as part of a corporate
body.
>  
> Randy
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/20/10, M. George Walters <m.george.walters at verizon.net>
wrote:
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> From: M. George Walters <m.george.walters at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy
> To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at wedgeblade.net>
> Date: Monday, September 20, 2010, 9:54 AM
> 
> One way to look at this --
> 
> If we think of this as God’s movement those who will carry on (God’s
movement vs. our movement) are already being self-elected in their response
to the activity of God in history. Our task is then to provide what we know
that may enable them.
> 
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> No one cares what age truth is when it is truth.
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> With kindest regards.
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>   
> M. George Walters
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> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On
Behalf Of Herman Greene
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:36
> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'; 'Bob and Sandra Rafos'; 'Charles or
Doris Hahn'; 'Charlotte Betche'; 'Colleague Dialogue'; 'David Dunn';
'Douglas Druckenmiller'; 'Jack Gilles'; 'James Wheeler'; 'Larry Ward'; 'Mark
Davies'; 'Terry Bergdall'; webbpat1 at cox.net; 'Springboard Dialogue'
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy
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>   
> I certainly like this thought that the embodiment was the methodology. If
that’s what methodology is, it was the key.
> 
>   
> I also think there is a deep insight here about what was learned about
transforming presence as people worked in mission around the world.
Transforming presence is pedagogy.
> 
>   
> Ah yes, then there is the new curriculum. It is different too.
> 
>   
> The most difficult part to digest of Bill’s message is that is up to us in
our mature, elder and elderly years to pass this on. Rather like Abraham and
Sarah having a baby and naming their son “he will laugh.” Though no doubt
there are second and third generationers also to carry this on.
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> Herman
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> From: oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Parker
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:00 PM
> To: Bob and Sandra Rafos; Charles or Doris Hahn; Charlotte Betche;
Colleague Dialogue; David Dunn; 'Douglas Druckenmiller'; Jack Gilles; James
Wheeler; 'Larry Ward'; Mark Davies; Order Ecumenical Community; Terry
Bergdall; webbpat1 at cox.net; Springboard Dialogue
> Subject: [Oe List ...] The Emerging Shape of the New Pedagogy
> 
>   
> Colleagues,
> 
> Speaking of the New Pedagogy, which implies a new pedagogue, perhaps the
obvious needs to be pointed out. Here are some thoughts about the emerging
shape of the New Pedagogy as seen through the presence of the new pedagogue.
> 
> The New Pedagogy is remarkably different from anything we have ever done
in our past because the pedagogue is completely different from the pedagogue
of the past, even if the pedagogues are the same person. The pedagogue of
the 60’s was not global, in spite of one’s self story, nor had the pedagogue
of the 60’s spent 30 years living the Dark Night of the Soul. The 60’s
pedagogue had no understanding of the terrain and topography of the other
world in the midst of this world, the Kingdom of God, I believe Jesus called
it. The old pedagogue had no first hand knowledge of what the pedagogy of
the oppressed was nor how it worked in every land of the planet until they
went there and did it. The old pedagogue had no clue as to how to be
sustained in a solitary and self-sufficient life. The pedagogue of the 60’s
was naïve about the world and about the consequences of not being
rewsponsible globally, theologically, or economically, as the human
condition and the condition of the planet reveal so clearly today. The
Pedagogue of the 60’s saw ecumenism insofar as the Christian community was
concerned and not as a vehicle for global peace and diversity through
interaction of an inter- faith community.
> 
> The pedagogy of the past was but a prelude to the pedagogy we are now
putting together. The pedagogue of the past was but a spiritual shadow of
the pedagogues you have become today. But we must shake off our stylistic
compromises and our preferred prejudices we acquired in order to be
imminently presentable to our chosen markets, if we are to build the earth.
We cannot keep doing what we have been doing, we cannot simply wrap our arms
around everything everyone is doing and say that is it, we must courageously
embrace a new role, take a new risk, embrace an open future, address the
global contradiction and see to it that what needs to be done is getting
done.
> 
> None of us as individuals woke up until someone awakened us personally.
Only then did we grasp that we could be a skilled pedagogue awakening and
training thousands in a new pedagogy for the sake of awakening the world to
a new way of being human.  We live in urgent times now and our time is
short.  If we are going to move on this moment, now is the time to move.
There is no doubt we have been prepared by the fire of life for this. The
only question is who will.
> 
> There is no new pedagogy nor new pedagogue without embodying that which is
being disclosed in the style of the pedagogy. RSI changed our lives because
the pedagogues were living their pedagogy! That reality was the methodology.
We, too, are called to be that embodiment regardless of whether we say yes
or no to what history is asking us to do.
> 
> With profound respect, take care for there is little time and so much to
do.
> 
> Grace and Peace be unto you.
> 
> Bill
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