[Dialogue] re turn to the world

lynlady at aol.com lynlady at aol.com
Thu Aug 4 17:53:54 EDT 2011


Here's a recollection I have regarding the big iron turn symbol --


For the "council of a lifetime" in 1984, the turn symbol was moved to the Great Hall. This required making it shorter, and I don't remember how that was accomplished, but it was a big deal -- and definitely controversial. I do remember that during the move David McClesky broke his arm. It was even heavier than it looked! And then it was painted gold (also controversial). It was on one end of the hall and a beautifully sculpted and painted earthrise was at the other end (the work of Helen Haug).


Perhaps its next journey was to Washington. Nancy, does it have any vestiges of gold paint?



A subplot of the decor for the room was "the Mural Wars". Not afraid of taking on another big challenge, the task force determined we would create a symbolic depiction of moving from "the big bang" to the "new human." The two artists assigned were Berthold (sorry, can't recall his last name), and Allene Watson (Joe Matthew's sister.) They didn't quite see it the same way. What developed was, Allene would paint in the day, and then during the night, Berthold would create his interpretation. It was something! Those of us tasked with somehow bringing this to a conclusion took heart from a declaration of Joe Pierce, "In art, there is no such thing as consensus!" By the opening, one mural had emerged.


-- Lynette Ladysmith








-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Lanphear <nancy at songaia.com>
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] re turn to the world


Dear Colleagues, 

Although the turn symbol that I am speaking of may not be THE very large and weighty one that you are remembering, Steve - although it is that in relationship to say, the iron crosses that hung in our houses since the beginning of time.  The task we took on was also heavy and weighty, intense and incredible!  What a great symbol!  The circle of the turn symbol here at Songaia is only 25 inches in diameter.

This conversation is great!  Thanks, 

Nancy


On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:59 AM, steve har <stevehar11201 at gmail.com> wrote:

The very large and weighty turn symbol was welded by Oscar Sperstad who along with Roberta lived near Eau Clare, Wisc. As I remember, it showed up, unmovable, on the 2nd floor. I don't know what happened to it or how it began.


Reminds me one time when I was working at the Russian Federal Securities Commission in the 1990s trying to help organize a conference of capitalists. Back stage there was a car-sized bust of Lenin that wouldn't be moved, so people just walked around it on the way to their power point pitches for having a USA style "market" economy. 


Wiegel burned the research eh? No wonder I'm confused. Sounds like Canticle for Libowitz where the old models were destroyed and people spent centuries trying to figure out why electricity works because they lost the original thinking on which the inventions were build.


Those that don't remember, or forgot, get to re-live it I think.


It would be interesting to have a challenge question like what are the top 50 innovations in the archives that were innovations then and might be in the future.


Anyone have a candidate innovation from the old days that might have a future?

-- 
Steve Harrington


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