[Dialogue] re turn to the world

[Nancy Lanphear]

Dear Lynette and all,

I am now sure that the huge turn symbol is not the one I have on my porch.
I can carry this one and I am not THAT strong!  However, it an come to
Chicago if there is a space for it.

Just another piece of the story since I found it on my porch.  My neighbor,
Brian, suggested we could use it for garden art.  I agreed as long as we
hung the poetry from D.H. Lawrence with it talking about the wedge of
steel.  From my perspective (and Fred's) Songaia is a legacy  of the order
but many of my neighbors would not understand the symbol as a turn to the
world.

I loved hearing from you Lynette.  Voices from our past are becoming more
meaningful as the days go  by.

Love,

Nancy

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:53 PM, <lynlady at aol.com> wrote:

> Here's a recollection I have regarding the big iron turn symbol --
>
>  For the "council of a lifetime" in 1984, the turn symbol was moved to the
> Great Hall. This required making it shorter, and I don't remember how that
> was accomplished, but it was a big deal -- and definitely controversial. I
> do remember that during the move David McClesky broke his arm. It was even
> heavier than it looked! And then it was painted gold (also controversial).
> It was on one end of the hall and a beautifully sculpted and painted
> earthrise was at the other end (the work of Helen Haug).
>
>  Perhaps its next journey was to Washington. Nancy, does it have any
> vestiges of gold paint?
>
>  A subplot of the decor for the room was "the Mural Wars". Not afraid of
> taking on another big challenge, the task force determined we would create a
> symbolic depiction of moving from "the big bang" to the "new human." The two
> artists assigned were Berthold (sorry, can't recall his last name), and
> Allene Watson (Joe Matthew's sister.) They didn't quite see it the same way.
> What developed was, Allene would paint in the day, and then during the
> night, Berthold would create his interpretation. It was something! Those of
> us tasked with somehow bringing this to a conclusion took heart from a
> declaration of Joe Pierce, "In art, there is no such thing as consensus!" By
> the opening, one mural had emerged.
>
>  -- Lynette Ladysmith
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lanphear <nancy at songaia.com>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 4, 2011 10:23 am
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] re turn to the world
>
>  Dear Colleagues,
>
> Although the turn symbol that I am speaking of may not be THE very large
> and weighty one that you are remembering, Steve - although it is that in
> relationship to say, the iron crosses that hung in our houses since the
> beginning of time.  The task we took on was also heavy and weighty, intense
> and incredible!  What a great symbol!  The circle of the turn symbol here at
> Songaia is only 25 inches in diameter.
>
> This conversation is great!  Thanks,
>
> Nancy
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:59 AM, steve har <stevehar11201 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The very large and weighty turn symbol was welded by Oscar Sperstad who
>> along with Roberta lived near Eau Clare, Wisc. As I remember, it showed up,
>> unmovable, on the 2nd floor. I don't know what happened to it or how it
>> began.
>>
>>  Reminds me one time when I was working at the Russian Federal Securities
>> Commission in the 1990s trying to help organize a conference of capitalists.
>> Back stage there was a car-sized bust of Lenin that wouldn't be moved, so
>> people just walked around it on the way to their power point pitches for
>> having a USA style "market" economy.
>>
>>  Wiegel burned the research eh? No wonder I'm confused. Sounds like
>> Canticle for Libowitz where the old models were destroyed and people spent
>> centuries trying to figure out why electricity works because they lost the
>> original thinking on which the inventions were build.
>>
>>  Those that don't remember, or forgot, get to re-live it I think.
>>
>>  It would be interesting to have a challenge question like what are the
>> top 50 innovations in the archives that were innovations then and might be
>> in the future.
>>
>>  Anyone have a candidate innovation from the old days that might have a
>> future?
>>
>> --
>> Steve Harrington
>>
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