[Dialogue] Change belief

Wed Aug 17 21:22:32 EDT 2011

Thank you, Larry.  I'm going to ponder this.  You give some insights worth considering.  I'll have to put Peck into context but it is an intriguing thought.  To me, the transformation of corporations has the appearance of something new and surprisingly parallels Wilber's concept of "holons" as part of the creative process.  Our egos don't tolerate of possibility of being merely a holon very well.
    Darrell Walker

  Dear Darrell

  I might accept your assertion that some form of "we" or community is a potential new integration or level of consciousness but to paraphrase M. Scott Peck "an organization is the first escape from authentic community."  I work with corporations all the time and the biggest contradiction at all levels is to bring the individuals to perceive ownership and responsibility for "we" actions.  

  Individuals within corporations are willing to reap the benefits but see a separation from the negative impact.  Globally we are creating a story of worth that CEO's are worth "364 times what their workers are worth" yet weak systems for accountability.  We have companies shipping jobs to India and China and paying workers pittance while the management rakes in billions.  Yet from their perspective and within our current cultural/economic framework this is not only allowed it is rewarded and celebrated.

  Perhaps you are right we are going through a transition and the current form is one that will not survive. I am attaching a paper from Thomas Friedman on a Theory of Everything about how globalization and technology are  transforming our globe. 

  What is the new form that is being called for? 

  I am realizing more and more our/my work needs to be in the area of individual/organizational /community reflection and basing transformation on that reflection.  Becoming more grounded in spirit and expanding or deepening context to include from I to All.  

  I think a lot of the work going on reflects this and perhaps we need to look for ways to connect and learn from each other the work of the archives, Mike May, Pat Webb the Silence foundation, PJD, Wiegel's mediation work, Jack's work in India, Australia's work in several areas, Stanfield The courage to lead, Packard's work on imaginal learning and stance, Taiwan on Dialogue and Truth about life, etc.  This is not an inclusive list just a quick brainstorm.

  How can  it be shared? Who else is contributing to this edge and how? Who is demonstrating the living on the edge?

  With respect, Larry

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  On 8/15/2011 8:56 AM, Ken Fisher wrote: 

    Robert Kennedy is fearless in describing how corporations have bought the media and the governments of the United States.

    This 24 minute interview says so much about corporate tyranny.

    Ken

    Dear Friends,

    If you want to be inspired, click this interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

    Gene Marshall

    Begin forwarded message:

    http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/environmental-advocate-robert-f-kennedy-jr/ 

    On 2011-08-11, at 12:43 PM, darrell walker wrote:

        I have followed this conversation about the appropriate function of corporations in culture with interest and curiosity.  I believe it would be well to refresh our memories of Ken Wilber's concept of holons.  Holons are the necessary components of evolving higher structures.  Atoms are holons of molecules, molecules are holons of cells, etc. Let me assert my belief that corporations are the next evolving level of spiritual development.  A new creature is in the offing.

        I am told by authoritative sources that molecules in some places are still protesting and denying the existence of cells, while some pancreatic cells are forming unions demanding a decrease in the required output of pancreatic enzyme.  In a broader context I believe that a new, higher level of spiritual being is in the process of formation, a process that may evolve over the next thousand years.  Our role as holons will be participants in the process but we will not be in control.  The entity that evolves will be beyond our ability to comprehend and the God of that new entity will be much larger than the God of humans.  How do we adapt to our role as holons?  Will we be sustaining nutrients or threatening viruses?

        The pancreas must have healthy holons (cells) to function but the function of the pancreas is not simply to nurture pancreas cells.  It has a larger cosmic function, that of providing a necessary enzyme product for an entity beyond the ability of the holons to comprehend.  This process of corporate evolution is identical to what lesser spirits experienced throughout evolution.  At each level the holons thought that they were the ultimate end of creation.  We humans likewise believe we are the ultimate end and the thought that evolution might move beyond us is outlandish.  But it is happening before our eyes.

        I hear the discussion in this thread as both limited and cosmic.  Do holons get to have input on the evolving species?  Yes.  The hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water have from the beginning put limits on the function of the larger water molecule.  Likewise I think it important that we holons get our input into the formation of the new corporate entity, not for our own self-serving purposes, but to see that the new entity provides a useful service to the cosmos.  It is not helpful to visualize the corporation as demonic nor should we limit the function to that of serving only us, the holons.  In this ongoing discussion I perceive visions of complexity that challenge our limited human concepts.  What this new being having organs labeled as Google, Apple, and Goldman Sachs will look like we can't know.  But it is interesting to watch the formative process.  I believe that you are the yeast in the new bread.
        Darrell Walker -- Phoenix

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