[Dialogue] Change of Belief
Robert A Griffin
ramgriffin at msn.com
Sat Aug 20 21:02:55 EDT 2011
Well...I ain't 79 yet, but I was just tagging onto what Steve was doing in the 'change of belief' thread, and thought that Stephen Hawkings was learning in his life-long research might have something to say in that string. Sorry to offend ya'all. RAG
P.S. Marshall, Muriel asked how she got into this thread. Of course I don't find you brain-dead in your posts either. Remember WDC in 1988? Those were great days around Celebrating the JWM Legacy. She led well then. She continues to lead well now at her tender age! 'Nuff said!
Marshall Jones on the Dialogue and included here for my brother and two sons-in-law... "Jeez. Never imagined that Bob Griffin in his old age was actually on another intellectual planet so different from the rest of us. I'm almost brane-dead as it is; maybe Muriel is not. But at this point I do hope to hobble toward my inevitable tombstone etc. without needing more brane [a la the Scarecrow]."
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:48:14 -0700
From: synergi at yahoo.com
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Change of Belief
Jeez. Never imagined that Bob Griffin in his old age was actually on another intellectual planet so different from the rest of us. I'm almost brane-dead as it is; maybe Muriel is not. But at this point I do hope to hobble toward my inevitable tombstone etc. without needing more brane [a la the Scarecrow] than I can muster.
Marshall
From: Robert A Griffin <ramgriffin at msn.com>
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Sent: Sat, August 20, 2011 11:43:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Change of Belief
Steve, Darrell et al:
Bob G. seldom responds to the Dialogue but this brought me up short because I have just been flipping through Stephen Hawking's The Universe in a Nutshell, Bantam Books 2001.
Now, truth be known, I am not a physist or the son or brother of one. In Liberia in 2000 I wrote a high school physics lesson plan to help prepare West African HS students for the WATests that ALL high schoolers in Liberia had to pass in order to graduate from high school. Now that was a year before Hawking's TUN so I did not have the benefit of his undescibable clarity. Ever hear of a brane? Neither had I until reading TUN yesterday. "In a brane world model, holography would be a one-to-one correspondence between states in our four-dimensional world and states in higher dimensions." and... "With observations from the LHC (Large Hadron Collider) at Geneva {now undergoing tests}... we may be able to determine whether or not we live on a brane. If we do, it will presumably be because the anthropic principle picks out brane models from the vast zoo of universes allowed by M-theory. We could well paraphrase Miranda in Shakerspeare's The Tempest:
O Brane new world.
That has such creatures in't.
That is the universe in a nutshell." Hawking
Pondering some more about Darrell's Change of Belief thread which includes
phrases like:
-Ken Wilber's concept of holons
-Our role as holons will be participants in the process but we will not be in control
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