[Dialogue] Change of Belief

marilyncrocker at juno.com marilyncrocker at juno.com
Sat Aug 20 21:26:18 EDT 2011


Thank you, Dear Bob and Muriel --

 for reminding us that S. Hawkings is still (amazingly!) going strong. 
May we all try to grasp the nuggets of wisdom embedded in his unique
consciousness of consciousness and apply such to our more mundane lives 
(at least ours here in West Newfield, ME).

Grace, peace and appreciation,

Marilyn

Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker
123 Sanborn Road
West Newfield, ME 04095

On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 21:02:55 -0400 Robert A Griffin <ramgriffin at msn.com>
writes:
Well...I ain't 79 yet, but I was just tagging onto what Steve was doing
in the 'change of belief' thread, and thought that Stephen Hawkings was
learning in his life-long research might have something to say in that
string.  Sorry to offend ya'all.  RAG
P.S.  Marshall, Muriel asked how she got into this thread.  Of course I
don't find you brain-dead in your posts either.  Remember WDC in 1988? 
Those were great days around Celebrating the JWM Legacy.  She led well
then.  She continues to lead well now at her tender age!  'Nuff said!


Marshall Jones on the Dialogue and included here for my brother and two
sons-in-law...
     "Jeez. Never imagined that Bob Griffin in his old age was actually
on another intellectual planet so          different from the rest of us.
I'm almost brane-dead as it is; maybe Muriel is not. But at this point I
do hope to hobble toward my inevitable tombstone etc. without needing
more brane [a la the Scarecrow]."
 



Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:48:14 -0700
From: synergi at yahoo.com
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Change of Belief


Jeez. Never imagined that Bob Griffin in his old age was actually on
another intellectual planet so different from the rest of us. I'm almost
brane-dead as it is; maybe Muriel is not. But at this point I do hope to
hobble toward my inevitable tombstone etc. without needing more brane [a
la the Scarecrow] than I can muster.
Marshall




From: Robert A Griffin <ramgriffin at msn.com>
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Sent: Sat, August 20, 2011 11:43:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Change of Belief


Steve, Darrell et al:
Bob G. seldom responds to the Dialogue but this brought me up short
because I have just been flipping through Stephen Hawking's The Universe
in a Nutshell, Bantam Books 2001.  
Now, truth be known, I am not a physist or the son or brother of one.  In
Liberia in 2000 I wrote a high school physics lesson plan to help prepare
West African HS students for the WATests that ALL high schoolers in
Liberia had to pass in order to graduate from high school.  Now that was
a year before Hawking's TUN so I did not have the benefit of his
undescibable clarity.  Ever hear of a brane?  Neither had I until reading
TUN yesterday.  "In a brane world model, holography would be a one-to-one
correspondence between states in our four-dimensional world and states in
higher dimensions." and... "With observations from the LHC (Large Hadron
Collider) at Geneva {now undergoing tests}... we may be able to determine
whether or not we live on a brane.  If we do, it will presumably be
because the anthropic principle picks out brane models from the vast zoo
of universes allowed by M-theory.  We could well paraphrase Miranda in
Shakerspeare's The Tempest:
    O Brane new world.
    That has such creatures in't.
That is the universe in a nutshell." Hawking

Pondering some more about Darrell's Change of Belief thread which
includes
phrases like:
-Ken Wilber's concept of holons
-Our role as holons will be participants in the process but we will not
be in control



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