[Dialogue] What the heck did we mean with "Contentless"??

James Wiegel jfwiegel at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 21 15:04:27 EST 2011 

WHAT!!!! You have been stuck in a shallow, surface level grasp of the social process, for FORTY YEARS?  Oh, my . . .

Probably check the archives of ICA

Jim Wiegel
Jfwiegel at yahoo.com

Il faut reculer pour mieux sauter.  Montaigne.  (You have to step back in order to jump).  as people in Mali like to say . . .

On Dec 21, 2011, at 8:22, Ken Fisher <hkf232 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> James,
> 
> It's 'fun' of you to start this thread.
> 
> I liked John's 'Merry Christmas' as part of it - as well as his description.
> 
> My 1971 (was that more than 40 years ago?) Social Process document only goes down to 'Reconstructed Universe'.
> 
> Where can I get the document that goes to the next level?
> 
> and 'Happy New Year',
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> On 2011-12-21, at 9:46 AM, James Wiegel wrote:
> 
> In the top of the social process triangles, top of the cultural triangle is common symbols process, lower right is social art process, lower right of that is eventful consciousness process, lower right of that is reconstructed universe process, lower left is shattering intrusion, lower right is revised content, top is contentless context process . . .
> 
> Does this clarify?
> 
> 
> 
> Jim Wiegel
> Jfwiegel at yahoo.com
> 
> Il faut reculer pour mieux sauter.  Montaigne.  (You have to step back in order to jump).  as people in Mali like to say . . .
> 
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 22:52, Evelyn Philbrook <joyful52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Jim and Paul, 
>> 
>> Could we have meant the structure of a contentless process, which is only informed by the participants responses?
>> 
>> Or could it have been talking about a state of Being, not Doing, or Knowing, but Being... Contentlessness...not focused on the material, but on presence of wonder itself.. not necessarily discontented or dissatisfied. Contentlessness could be about the absence of noise     and the bliss of silence. 
>> 
>> The wonder of words and the reality of the situations in life creates the context for the meaning of the words and how we use them. Our reflection gives form to our understanding, and our understanding is how we  live out the meaning of our lives, in separation, in unity, in fullness and contentlessness. 
>> 
>> Merry Christmas and Happy Hanuka,
>> 
>>  Evelyn Kurihara Philbrook
>> 
>> On 12/21/2011 4:32 AM, PSchrijnen at aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Jim,
>>>  
>>> In meetings these days we refer to balancing focus on content and process. Maybe 'contentless' has to do with focusing on process: the way things are done rather than what is done. I suspect it must have been more complicated than that....
>>>  
>>> Paul
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 20/12/2011 19:55:18 GMT Standard Time, jfwiegel at yahoo.com writes:
>>> Looking on the internet, it comes up as
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Con`tent´less:  Discontented; dissatisfied
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What did we mean?  What might be synonyms?
>>> 
>>> Jim Wiegel
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>>> --- On Sat, 12/17/11, Ellie Stock <elliestock at aol.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Ellie Stock <elliestock at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Advent song: In the Fullness of Earth's Time
>>> To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
>>> Date: Saturday, December 17, 2011, 1:55 PM
>>> 
>>> Hi Jack--
>>>  
>>> There is a tune, but it's not written down.  Our son, who is a musician, is visiting this weekend and is going to write it down--can send it then.  Til then it's in my head and on tape...the tune is reminiscent of a madrigal melody.  It's part of series called New World Madrigals.
>>>  
>>> Grace and peace,
>>>  
>>> Ellie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jack Gilles <icabombay at igc.org>
>>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
>>> Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2011 2:45 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Advent song: In the Fullness of Earth's Time
>>> 
>>> Ellie,
>>> 
>>> Is there a tune with this song?   The words and images are terrific!
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> Grace & Peace,
>>> 
>>> Jack
>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Ellie Stock wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Advent and Christmas blessings...
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> IN THE FULNESS OF EARTH’S TIME
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> In the fullness of earth’s time
>>>> In the silent desert night
>>>> Unfolds a rose and lifts its head
>>>> To the wonder of dawn’s light
>>>> Praising life’s strange plight
>>>>  
>>>>             Creation’s timing is perfect
>>>>             Its Mystery rebirth
>>>>  
>>>> In the stillness of earth’s space
>>>> In a crowded city place
>>>> Awakes a soul and lifts his head
>>>> To the wonder of his fate
>>>> Called to lead life’s race
>>>>  
>>>>             Creation’s timing is perfect
>>>>             Its chosenness rebirth
>>>>  
>>>> In the fullness of earth’s time
>>>> Across five thousand lands
>>>> Stretch the arms of woman and man
>>>> To build the earth again
>>>> Joined in life’s strange dance
>>>>  
>>>>             Creation’s timing is perfect
>>>>             Its Mystery rebirth
>>>>  
>>>>             Creation’s timing is perfect
>>>>             Its chosenness rebirth
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>                                                 ejhs
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