[Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad
Wayne Nelson
wnelson at ica-associates.ca
Wed Feb 9 11:43:21 CST 2011
Marilyn Crocker tells that story too. A big wind came up around that moment
and some of the tent came down or loose. A surprise mess. Marilyn managed
to shift the room when it was reset after the wind; so the back of the room
where the women were sitting became the front. I gather there was a lot of
nudge nudge wink wink among the women when that happened. I was
around, but not in the tent for that incident. My assignment was logistics
as I recall; so I missed most of the actual consultation itself.
\\/
"R Williams" wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> There's a story that came out of the consult that one night during one of the
> plenaries there was a stirring at the back of the tent and all the Bayad women
> walked in en masse. They sat together toward the back of the room instead of
> with their husbands who were up front, but nonetheless participated eargerly
> and actively in the work.
>
> I was not there, but since I know the story frequently becomes the event, and
> since I myself as well as many others have told the story many times, I know
> it must be true.
>
> Randy
>
> --- On Wed, 2/9/11, Wayne Nelson <wnelson at ica-associates.ca> wrote:
>>
>> From: Wayne Nelson <wnelson at ica-associates.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad
>> To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:46 AM
>>
>> I think you’re right, Randy. It’s huge. Imagine how many people could fit in
>> there. You can imagine all the side streets full as well.
>>
>> There was more likely more support for women’s participation than we thought
>> at the time. There was no pattern for women’s involvement at the time, but as
>> far as I know, no one who came was sent home. That we would have heard about.
>> Some women didn’t come, simply because they did not go out of the home much
>> at all. Thinking about it now, I suspect there was far more conversation
>> about than we imagined. There would have to have been. That sort of
>> cultural ripple could not have gone without notice. We just didn’t get to
>> hear all of it.
>>
>> I see Yassin’s wife, Nagwa Abd El Moinem, on facebook too. Haven’t caught
>> either her or Sabah for a chat yet.
>>
>> \\/
>>
>>
>> "R Williams" wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't that traffic circle near Tahrir Square the place where stands (or
>>> stood) the huge statue, attributed to Madam Sadat, of the Egyptian woman
>>> standing in traditional Muslim garb with her left had holding the veil away
>>> from her face and her right hand on the head of the Lion of Egypt which was
>>> kneeling at her feet? I remember seeing this statue in some traffic circle
>>> in Cairo, if not the one at Tahrir Square. A depiction of the statue also
>>> appeared on some Egyptian paper currency. At the time some people referred
>>> to the statue as "the new Egypt," and others as "the new Egyptian woman."
>>> It certainly reflected the spirit of the women of Bayad who participated in
>>> the HDP consult, as I recall without the approval of their husbands.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/9/11, Wayne Nelson <wnelson at ica-associates.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Wayne Nelson <wnelson at ica-associates.ca>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad
>>>> To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 9:45 AM
>>>>
>>>> We have not had any direct contact. Sabah Khalifa, ICA's ED, is back on
>>>> her
>>>> Facebook account. She lives in Beni Suef with her husband, Mohammed
>>>> Gorrany
>>>> Ali. Gorrany was the guy who ran the health clinic in the 70's. He and
>>>> Mohammed Hassan Oais are both on ICA's staff. We knew these guys as kids
>>>> and
>>>> their parents were good friends.
>>>>
>>>> Another friend in Minia, about an hour's drive from Bayad said nothing is
>>>> happening there. I don't think demonstrations have spread to the regional
>>>> cities. They all seem to be watching. He announced the anticipated birth
>>>> of triplets in September by saying, "My children will be born in the new
>>>> Egypt."
>>>>
>>>> My guess is that nothing at all is happening around Bayad and Beni Suef of
>>>> any magnitude.
>>>>
>>>> The demonstration is spreading throughout Cairo, beyond Tahrir Square.
>>>> That's the huge area with a massive traffic circle. The "Mogamma', the big
>>>> federal building is at the the south end, the Nile Hilton along the river
>>>> and the Egyptian Museum at the north. It's probably a full kilometer from
>>>> north to south and at least that wide.
>>>>
>>>> \\/
>>>>
>>>> "George Holcombe" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > Sarah Buss was in an auto accident recently and is presently not able to
>>>>> spend
>>>>> > time to retrieve all our emails, but she did ask about El Bayad and if
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> > has any contact with the people there.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> George Holcombe
>>>> 14900
>>>>> > Yellowleaf Tr.
>>>> Austin, TX 78728
>>>> Mobile
>>>>> > 512/252-2756
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>>>>
>>>> “...we have the choice: we can
>>>>> > gratefully cultivate the relationships that make us part of a vast
>>>>> network, or
>>>>> > we can take them for granted and allow them to wither and die.” Brother
>>>>> David
>>>>> > Steindl-Rast, Deeper than
>>>>> > Words
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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