[Dialogue] Fwd: Any info on El Bayad

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Wed Feb 9 16:38:08 CST 2011


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From: "Mary Poole" <mpoole at prescott.edu> 
To: jeanp246 at comcast.net 
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 9:35:12 AM 
Subject: RE: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad 

Hi Mom, 
would you please forward this for me? Thanks, and thanks for sending the news on. 
Mary 

Hi everyone, 

I assume that everyone who has lived in Egypt is watching Al Jazeera, but for those who don't know about it, it's got the best coverage, and actually I watch it for my best global news source. On Egypt it is presenting many sides on many dimensions of what is happening, and the only problem is that I have trouble tearing myself away to do other things! 

My colleagues in Kenya are involved in a civil rights uprising in Maasailand-- like many across North Africa, I understand, this one has not reached international news widely (though is partially covered through the Kenya media and globalpressinstitute.org. But I keep seeing signs that what is going on i bigger than Tunisia and Egypt. It's a moment. 

I love the news about our friends--would love to go back. 
Thanks, 
Mary Poole 






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Sent: Wed 2/9/2011 9:52 AM 
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Subject: Fwd: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad 
  

----- Forwarded Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Nelson" <wnelson at ica-associates.ca> 
To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue at wedgeblade.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 8:46:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad 

I think you're right, Randy.  It's huge. Imagine how many people could fit in there. You can imagine all the side streets full as well. 

There was more likely more support for women's participation than we thought at the time. There was no pattern for women's involvement at the time, but as far as I know, no one who came was sent home. That we would have heard about. Some women didn't come, simply because they did not go out of the home much at all. Thinking about it now, I suspect there was far more conversation about than we imagined.  There would have to have been.  That sort of cultural ripple could not have gone without notice. We just didn't get to hear all of it. 

I see Yassin's wife, Nagwa Abd El Moinem, on facebook too. Haven't caught either her or Sabah for a chat yet. 

\\/ 


"R Williams"  wrote: 



Isn't that traffic circle near Tahrir Square the place where stands (or stood) the huge statue, attributed to Madam Sadat, of the Egyptian woman standing in traditional Muslim garb with her left had holding the veil away from her face and her right hand on the head of the Lion of Egypt which was kneeling at her feet?  I remember seeing this statue in some traffic circle in Cairo, if not the one at Tahrir Square.  A depiction of the statue also appeared on some Egyptian paper currency.  At the time some people referred to the statue as "the new Egypt," and others as "the new Egyptian woman."  It certainly reflected the spirit of the women of Bayad who participated in the HDP consult, as I recall without the approval of their husbands. 
  
Randy 

--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Wayne Nelson < wnelson at ica-associates.ca > wrote: 



From: Wayne Nelson < wnelson at ica-associates.ca > 
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Any info on El Bayad 
To: "Colleague Dialogue" < dialogue at wedgeblade.net > 
Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 9:45 AM 

We have not had any direct contact.  Sabah Khalifa, ICA's ED, is back on her 
Facebook account.  She lives in Beni Suef with her husband, Mohammed Gorrany 
Ali.  Gorrany was the guy who ran the health clinic in the 70's. He and 
Mohammed Hassan Oais are both on ICA's staff. We knew these guys as kids and 
their parents were good friends. 

Another friend in Minia, about an hour's drive from Bayad said nothing is 
happening there. I don't think demonstrations have spread to the regional 
cities.  They all seem to be watching.  He announced the anticipated birth 
of triplets in September by saying, "My children will be born in the new 
Egypt."    

My guess is that nothing at all is happening around Bayad and Beni Suef of 
any magnitude.   

The demonstration is spreading throughout Cairo, beyond Tahrir Square. 
That's the huge area with a massive traffic circle.  The "Mogamma', the big 
federal building is at the the south end, the Nile Hilton along the river 
and the Egyptian Museum at the north.  It's probably a full kilometer from 
north to south and at least that wide. 

\\/ 

"George Holcombe"  wrote: 

> Sarah Buss was in an auto accident recently and is presently not able to spend 
> time to retrieve all our emails, but she did ask about El Bayad and if anyone 
> has any contact with the people there. 

Thanks. 

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