[Dialogue] Social process triangles

[George Packard]

Jim, 
On early Triangle research:
There was a group as early as 1967-9 who worked on a Dynamic Sociology
course. It was made up of mainly permeaters who were working in social work
(Weren't you in that group?). I think the motivation was to invent a course
to bring in their colleagues in social work like the Imaginal Ed course was
originally intended for teachers and schools. That taskforce had the eco,
pol, cult. dynamics and may have even had the first level triangles. How
much of that they invented or how much came out of the CS1 or Sociology and
history I don't know. I attended a few of their sessions as a commuter but
it is now a blur. Then came the summer assembly that took the triangles down
to the 7 or 9 level draft and then back to the consensus at four. Then my
memory recalls Jim Wiegel managing the ecclesiola work on the dynamics of
"supports, limits, and sustains", and the documents on the relational
arrows. 
George

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This is likely an old timer question.  I was invOlved in working on the
social process triangles from January of 1971.  Who knows anything of their
prior history?  I am pretty sure that when I took the sociology and history
course with the Ecumenical Institute in January of 1967.  the sociology part
was organized around economic, political and cultural.  

What else can we recall?
Thanks.

Jim Wiegel 
Jfwiegel at yahoo.com

On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:52, "Martin Gilbraith (ICA:UK)" <martin at ica-uk.org.uk>
wrote:



many thanks all, this has been very insightful.  I attach a compilation of
your responses in Word, with bold added by me to highlight some key themes.
I'd welcome any further thoughts, recollections or references.

In the meantime I hope contributors are happy for me to share this with
ICA:UK colleagues here.  best wishes,
Martin



On 11/01/2011 15:46, Martin Gilbraith (ICA:UK) wrote: 

Hi everyone, I am hoping that colleagues with longer memories might be able
to help me with some history please...

The 'big idea' of the UK's new coalition government is Big Society -
variously, applauded as empowering the people, and/or derided as a cynical
cover for devastating public spending cuts - see
<http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/policy-campaigns-research/big-society/big-societ
y>
http://www.ncvo-vol.org.uk/policy-campaigns-research/big-society/big-society

A major initiative within this agenda is a forthcoming Government-funded
programme to train and support a cadre of 5,000 Community Organisers,
explicitly based on the principles of Saul Alinsky and Paulo Friere - see
<http://www.urbanforum.org.uk/briefings/community-organisers-briefing>
http://www.urbanforum.org.uk/briefings/community-organisers-briefing

I beleive that Friere was an influence on the early development of EI/ICA's
methods and approach, and I understand that Alinsky was developing Community
Organising in Chicago around the same time as EI/ICA was in Fifth City.  

What I would really like to learn more about is to what extent and how did
Friere and/or Alinsky influence the develpment of EI/ICA and our methods and
approach; and to what extent and how might our methods and approach have
influenced the development of Community Organising?

My partner Derek put this same question, more or less, to George Packard
several years ago when he was here in the UK just after Derek had taken a
course in Faith-based Community Organising through his local Unitarian
church - but I don't much remember what he said, and I'd love to have any
more specific recollections and (better still) any documents that might be
relevant.

I am hoping this might inform how we seek to position ICA:UK in relation to
this emerging new agenda, and that I might draft an article (for ICA:UK
Network News if not also elsewhere) based on what I receive.

many thanks for any recollections or insights you can offer, best wishes,
Martin



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