[Dialogue] Stick Chart Navigators

Lawrence Philbrook icalarry at gmail.com
Sun May 1 20:03:01 CDT 2011


This is not an either or choice.

All maps stick or otherwise are based on the past, life is based on 
living into the now, purpose or mission is based on sensing the "called 
for" future knowing that I do not know, even more knowing that large 
pieces of the future will only come clear in retrospect.

I have always been a do then learn then do kind of tactical practitioner 
but I like having access to the wisdom of the archives.

With respect, Larry

Lawrence Philbrook
Director, Institute of Cultural Affairs Taiwan
www.icatw.com Tel: 8862-2871-3150 Fax: 8862-2871-2870
Skype: icalarry

President ICA International/ Member Global Leadership Team
ICAI Office c/o ICA Canada, 655 Queen Street East
Toronto, ON.  M4M 1G4 Canada
www.ica-international.org


On 5/2/2011 8:47 AM, DOUGLAS DRUCKENMILLER wrote:
> Well, some of us are academics (boo) and need documentation for papers 
> and other research -- so that's one thing of a practical nature to do 
> with the archived stuff. Spend a day or two around the Archive project 
> and see how useful -- and fun  - it is.
> Pat
>
> > From: lees.mail at comcast.net
> > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 14:51:24 -0700
> > To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
> > Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Stick Chart Navigators
> >
> > I gotta go with Jimmy Wiegal on this one. I said something along 
> these lines on a Skype link to our gathered colleagues in Mexico a 
> month or so ago. Gilles was hosting. Leah and I were at Gordon's house 
> with Nancy Lampher, Carol Crow, Roxy, and Dorthea Jewell. As I recall, 
> it was David Brooks who said recently that what society needs, at this 
> time, is a new story, a new foundation.
> >
> > A very close friend of mine, who will remain nameless, said it might 
> be possible that what the old order is tying to do is deny death. (The 
> archives were the context for this statement.) My friend then ask me 
> when I had experienced myself out over nothing - not knowing what to 
> do - and having to do something. I did recall a time or two in my life 
> when that was the case. My friend then asked if I went digging around 
> in an archive somewhere, or look up the answer in a book. No, I 
> hadn't. I do not believe any of us, in a similar situation would have 
> either. This begs the question therefore, why is the order doing 
> this?. who is the intended audience?, under what circumstances would 
> anyone ever stop what they are doing and search for ICA archives? 
> Would they even know what to Google?
> >
> > Stick charts are based on some very solid earth science, star 
> navigation and wave action. (Oh and experience) There are four 
> variables. Direction, location, distance and time. Distance will 
> determine time when the guy in the outrigger is chanting a specific 
> time or rhythm to measure distance. So, I suppose there are three 
> variables if you combine distance and time.
> >
> > I'm sure some will say that the way life is is the way life is. 
> Maybe, but the story surely has changed and I don't hear a new story 
> or foundation up here in the sunny northwest. Must be getting too much 
> sun.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2011, at 2:19 PM, steve har wrote:
> >
> > > Very interesting Q&A
> > >
> > > Randy asks: "how to put the Event and the Story distinctions to work"
> > > Gene answers: " with the New Religious Mode distinction"
> > > Interesting interchange! Listening for more...
> > >
> > > But It is a puzzle too:
> > > one guy in a without a map searching
> > > one guy in a with a Joe Mathews map, he says, of the way life is
> > >
> > > 2 life conditions either
> > > without a story and looking for one or
> > > with a story and trying to fit it to the world
> > >
> > > Like those Marshall Islanders navigators with their stick charts
> > > off on a voyage listening to rhythm of the waves hit the prow of 
> the boat looking for that island but,
> > > back home making stick charts trying to remember the pattern
> > >
> > > Grandpa Navagators bouncing the babies on their knees training 
> future navigators is what Wiegel says there is to do now
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands_stick_chart
> > >
> > > searching for a story...won't do
> > > admiring old stories... won't do either
> > > no way forward, no way back...
> > > How about you?
> > >
> > > Steve Harrington
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Harrington
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