[Dialogue] Present Reality

John Cock jpc2025 at triad.rr.com
Sun May 1 21:26:42 CDT 2011


Present reality is in our left-brain/right-brain understanding of the
archaic, futuric, cosmic, and depth dimensions that guide us in considered
action (maybe not split-second action). Inclusive and strategic practical
action comes from such a dynamic swirl. At issue is denying our best take on
reality by overweighing or lopping off any of these four indices.
 
Thanks for posing the practical matter of our archives (as well as the
legacy meeting and books out of last year). It would be good also to focus
practically on our futuric, cosmic, and depth wisdom since 1988, say. Maybe
the 50th anniversay can guide us here.
 
Respectfully,
 
John
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From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Lawrence Philbrook
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:03 PM
To: Colleague Dialogue
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Stick Chart Navigators


This is not an either or choice.  

All maps stick or otherwise are based on the past, life is based on living
into the now, purpose or mission is based on sensing the "called for" future
knowing that I do not know, even more knowing that large pieces of the
future will only come clear in retrospect.  

I have always been a do then learn then do kind of tactical practitioner but
I like having access to the wisdom of the archives.

With respect, Larry

Lawrence Philbrook

Director, Institute of Cultural Affairs Taiwan 

www.icatw.com Tel: 8862-2871-3150 Fax: 8862-2871-2870

Skype: icalarry



President ICA International/ Member Global Leadership Team

ICAI Office c/o ICA Canada, 655 Queen Street East

Toronto, ON.  M4M 1G4 Canada

www.ica-international.org

On 5/2/2011 8:47 AM, DOUGLAS DRUCKENMILLER wrote: 

Well, some of us are academics (boo) and need documentation for papers and
other research -- so that's one thing of a practical nature to do with the
archived stuff. Spend a day or two around the Archive project and see how
useful -- and fun  - it is. 
Pat

> From: lees.mail at comcast.net
> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 14:51:24 -0700
> To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Stick Chart Navigators
> 
> I gotta go with Jimmy Wiegal on this one. I said something along these
lines on a Skype link to our gathered colleagues in Mexico a month or so
ago. Gilles was hosting. Leah and I were at Gordon's house with Nancy
Lampher, Carol Crow, Roxy, and Dorthea Jewell. As I recall, it was David
Brooks who said recently that what society needs, at this time, is a new
story, a new foundation. 
> 
> A very close friend of mine, who will remain nameless, said it might be
possible that what the old order is tying to do is deny death. (The archives
were the context for this statement.) My friend then ask me when I had
experienced myself out over nothing - not knowing what to do - and having to
do something. I did recall a time or two in my life when that was the case.
My friend then asked if I went digging around in an archive somewhere, or
look up the answer in a book. No, I hadn't. I do not believe any of us, in a
similar situation would have either. This begs the question therefore, why
is the order doing this?. who is the intended audience?, under what
circumstances would anyone ever stop what they are doing and search for ICA
archives? Would they even know what to Google?
> 
> Stick charts are based on some very solid earth science, star navigation
and wave action. (Oh and experience) There are four variables. Direction,
location, distance and time. Distance will determine time when the guy in
the outrigger is chanting a specific time or rhythm to measure distance. So,
I suppose there are three variables if you combine distance and time.
> 
> I'm sure some will say that the way life is is the way life is. Maybe, but
the story surely has changed and I don't hear a new story or foundation up
here in the sunny northwest. Must be getting too much sun.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> On May 1, 2011, at 2:19 PM, steve har wrote:
> 
> > Very interesting Q&A 
> > 
> > Randy asks: "how to put the Event and the Story distinctions to work"
> > Gene answers: " with the New Religious Mode distinction"
> > Interesting interchange! Listening for more...
> > 
> > But It is a puzzle too:
> > one guy in a without a map searching
> > one guy in a with a Joe Mathews map, he says, of the way life is 
> > 
> > 2 life conditions either 
> > without a story and looking for one or
> > with a story and trying to fit it to the world
> > 
> > Like those Marshall Islanders navigators with their stick charts
> > off on a voyage listening to rhythm of the waves hit the prow of the
boat looking for that island but, 
> > back home making stick charts trying to remember the pattern
> > 
> > Grandpa Navagators bouncing the babies on their knees training future
navigators is what Wiegel says there is to do now
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Islands_stick_chart
> > 
> > searching for a story...won't do
> > admiring old stories... won't do either
> > no way forward, no way back...
> > How about you?
> > 
> > Steve Harrington
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Steve Harrington
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