[Dialogue] Healing Cancer/Heaven/Conquering Hope

[John Cock]

This is a good stream. Started me brooding on the "hope beyond hope." When
did we use that phrase?
 
John
  _____  

From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of LAURELCG at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:34 PM
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: [Dialogue] Healing Cancer/Heaven/Conquering Hope


I think I agree with the speaker that hopelessness kills people in the face
of a cancer diagnosis. Remarkable Recovery was an important book to me in my
lymphoma experience. It documents many people recovering from terminal
diagnoses. I don't agree with your speaker's second statement. It is trust
in your destiny, in this moment and for the future, that is helpful. No one
knows they're going to heaven.
 
My memoir of my journey with cancer might be helpful:Illness as Initiation:
an unlikely heroine's journey at http://booklocker.com/books/5100.html.
 
Conquering hope, IMHO, is what I attempt when I sit in stillness to meditate
and let go of my self, my personal history, my possessions, my thoughts, my
beliefs (e.g. in heaven), my hopes, my dreams, my fears. To travel back to
before the big bang and identify with the mystery that was present in
nothingness. Watching Fred McGuire really let go of everything on his
journey to death taught me what meditation is for.
 
Blessings, Jim. May all of us, especially your daughter-in-law, be well and
free from suffering,
Jann McGuire
 
 
 


On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:49 AM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:



Listening to the Healing Cancer World Summit (daughter in law has rectal
cancer) as I read your message, Bill . . . 2 comments from the speaker: 


Hopelessness is the killer, not cancer.

Then, later, he said:  People who know they are going to heaven have a
better chance of surviving cancer because they know where they are going . .
.

So, what is the relation between "going to heaven"  and "conquering hope"
and "hopelessness"?

Jim Wiegel

Life isn't meant to be easy, it's meant to be life. -- James Michener, The
Source

401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401
+1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel
jfwiegel at yahoo.com  <http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/>
www.partnersinparticipation.com <http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/> 

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://wedgeblade.net/pipermail/dialogue_wedgeblade.net/attachments/20111027/fcfb6310/attachment.html>