[Dialogue] 44 years ago today ...

Tue Apr 10 16:25:22 EDT 2012

Check your diet. I was diagnosed with that a few years back and took some Chinese herbs and next check I was good to go. Don't remember what the herbs were except they were bitter. 

George Holcombe

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On Apr 10, 2012, at 2:47 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow.  Has it been 44 years??  Seems like just 44 hours ago . . . ;)
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> Shifting this conversation to the future, anyone have wisdom on gallstones?
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> UNFOLDING
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> If there is no spirit unfolding itself in history,
> No gradual growth of consciousness
> Beneath the land grabs and forced migrations,
> The bought elections, the betrayal of trust
> By party faction in the name of progress—
> What about spirit in the personal realm
> Unfolding slowly inside us, so slowly
> That our best days seem like a holding action?
> Seasons repeat themselves, but the tree
> Shading the yard keeps growing.
> Don’t be chagrined that the sadness you felt
> This evening beside the bed of a friend
> Who’s growing weaker wasn’t more profound
> Than the sadness of yesterday, that you still
> Can’t imagine a fraction of what he’s feeling
> As the world he loves slips from his grasp.
> No progress from your perspective,
> But who’s to say what you might notice
> If the scroll of the last few months were unrolled
> On the table before you, how clear it might be
> That your understanding of all you’re losing
> In losing him has been slowly deepening?
> Another day, you say to yourself, at dusk
> As you climb your porch steps, which you notice
> Could use some scraping and painting this weekend,
> A fresh coat that with luck will last a year.
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> --Carl Dennis
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> --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Bill Schlesinger <pvida at whc.net> wrote:
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> From: Bill Schlesinger <pvida at whc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] 44 years ago today ...
> To: "'Colleague Dialogue'" <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
> Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 7:14 PM
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> We had calls coming in (I was on switchboard for awhile) from Boston, New York, etc.  “Are you burned out?” “No, we’re still here.”  One call was to announce that they would ‘take responsibility for being the new Chicago.’  Thankfully, it wasn’t necessary at the time.  
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> There were a lot of ashes in the air – not just from our building.  It almost started again when a National Guard unit (they were the ones with the automatic weapons) fired a tear gas blast from a large device on the back of a jeep.  But it didn’t. 
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> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Wilson Priscilla
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 12:34 PM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] 44 years ago today ...
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> I often wondered when and why Michael Borge left. He was on the Board at the time.
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> One of our best stories...Rod called the west side about something...I think he and Len Dresslar were getting ready to deliver something to the west side. Anyway, when he called who ever answered the switch board said, "I can give you that number, let me blow the ashes off this list first."
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> On Apr 7, 2012, at 1:18 PM, W. J. wrote:
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> Sometimes our legalism needs to get radically called into question by the intrusion of divine activity (which is not at all the same as any human activity).
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> Yes, we all knew who set the fires (as well as who put them out). And, according to Lingo (I think) there was a lawyer in our group who was insistent that we report who dunnit to the cops. His first name was Michael. 
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> Of course JWM was wise enough to know that we owed our continued existence in 5th City to the willingness of the local community--including the fire setters--to have us stay. And apparently that didn't sit too well with this lawyer! So he and his family picked up and left.
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> When I arrived a few weeks later, there were burns in the carpet in the middle of the seminar rooms, as well as the bullet holes in the doors etc (hence the name of the "bullet hole office" at the top of the stairs in the Administration Building). Funny how those little details stick with you long after the building's been 'dozed.
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> From: Bill Schlesinger <pvida at whc.net>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at wedgeblade.net>
> Sent: Sat, April 7, 2012 7:07:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] 44 years ago today ...
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> Mixed memories.  Mine included Tony going around putting out fires as (never mentioned) friends set them in the building, and instructions not to discuss those activities with the police, JWM talking earnestly with folk asking them not to destroy what we were building.  Life is complex.
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> From: dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net [mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Wilson Priscilla
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 5:03 PM
> To: Colleague Dialogue
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] 44 years ago today ...
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> We lived near O'Hare so we were picking up returning pedagogues from the weekend...then farming out Order children until the riots quieted down. We had the Marshall children at our house during for a week...or more, I can't remember. 
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> I'm sure everyone has memories of those moments...where we were when we got the word of MLK's death and the subsequent fires across the nation.
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> Thanks for the reminder of how the "gangs" really saved the Institute work at that moment.
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> On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Ken Fisher wrote:
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> Dear Colleagues,
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> On my fb page I wrote ...
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> 44 years today, the West Side and South Side were burning and seething with rage. The shock of 'oblivion' or non-being catapulted Joe Mathews and the Order: Ecumenical into the New Religious Mode and the New Social Vehicle. I recall arriving on the West Side five weeks later and being a part of the spirit rebirth of that cataclysmic event. At that time, Gene Beasely and his gang moved into an apartment of 3444 as protection.
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> Wow, thanks, Ken. I remember so well where I was, in an apartment on Blackstone St in Hyde Park. Unlike the West side of Chicago, the Southside was kept from burning mostly by patrols by Jeff Fort and the Blackstone Rangers, who went door to door of the businesses and posted flyers signalling their protection of the establishments. The back story was of course about Rev John Fry of 1st Presbyterian Church who poured his whole life and at times, his sanity, into making that gang into a precursor of the "guardians" which got attention in NYC later. Somewhere I think I still have his book of sermons from that time called "Fire and Blackstone." Since then I think we have gone backward in institutional racism, as the USA leads the world in incarceration of African-American males. And on top of that fact, the pernicious reality that prison populations are being "sold" as private corporations take over running the prisons. It's a profitable biz if you contract out cheap captive labor. It makes my head feel like exploding.
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