[Dialogue] The USofA is a Nation of Christian Heritics

[Troy Jarvis]

Had a church history professor in seminary who said "The church moves on its
heresies." Always helped me feel betterJ

Troy Jarvis

 

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[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of frank bremner
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Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The USofA is a Nation of Christian Heritics

 

I remember a book by Peter Berger, published in the late 70s, called The
Heretical Imperative.  He noted that the word "heresy" comes from a Greek
word meaning "choice".  He also noted that people these days had a political
preference, a sexual preference, etc.  Likewise people were choosing their
own systems of belief, symbols, etc.
 
I am reminded of this book whenever the Australian Catholic-Lutheran
Dialogue, based in Adelaide and contributing greatly to its global
equivalent, publishes documents with phrases such as "Catholics believe
..... " and "Lutherans believe .....".  Catholics do?   Lutherans do?  You
would find it difficult to find informed and well-articulated belief from
most adherents - who tend to think "theology" belongs to "the experts".
Mind you, some of "the experts" want to "own" the area of "theology".  The
powers, and that's probably the right word, of orthodoxy probably think
people obediently believe in a certain way, but I'm not so sure.  And
"obedience" comes from a Latin word "obediens" = "I listen" - it's not
necessarily slavishly following an organisational position.
 
Yet words like "heresy" may still be part of a useful conversation, as in
describing the four "heresies" listed below.  Do they reflect how life
actually is (remember "twilly": TWLI) or something else?
 
In what way do Kaz, Fox, Spong and DHL reflect heresies against particular
orthodoxies, and in what way do they exhibit worked-through choices?
 
Best wishes
 
Frank Bremner
 

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Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:13:02 -0400
From: dshahn31 at gmail.com
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The USofA is a Nation of Christian Heritics

I imagine quite a few of my church associates would call me a heretic, and
maybe they are right.
Doris Hahn




On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, <LAURELCG at aol.com> wrote:

I find wisdom in many Christian heretics, specifically Nikos Kazantzakis,
D.H. Lawrence and Matthew Fox.

 

Jann

 

In a message dated 4/17/2012 8:37:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
stevehar11201 at gmail.com writes:

>From the consensus of  ML King to..

4 divisive  Christian heresies which  flourish now:
-the Da Vinci Code [trendy, not RS1]
-the Prosperity Gospel [get rich=get god]
-Eat Pray Love  [blessing the Internal Impulses]
-Glen Beck [political saviors ]

NPR audio ink: Bad Religion, 7 minutes
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/14/150437554/heretics-the-crisis-of-american-chri
stianity

Do you agree?
What would Bishop Spong say?
--
Steve

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