[Dialogue] Why is religion still alive?

M George Walters m.george.walters at verizon.net
Mon Jan 9 16:51:12 EST 2012


Interesting.
I have never thought about it much except as an alternative to hell (the
fire part). That's my Baptist background I presume.  The three alternatives
offered here all sound like hell. 

So I am back to where I was when I joined this merry band in 1966. It time
to bring the Kingdom of Heaven on earth now which may take several thousand
years anyway.

George W

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dialogue-bounces at wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Bud Tillinghast
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 4:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Why is religion still alive?

I haven't run out of interest in being me after almost 80 years. Still
learning, still relating, other than bodily breakdown, when should I start
feeling my life is hellish?

Bud Tillinghast

On 9 Jan 2012, at 08:49, steve har wrote:

>    Why is religion still alive and...
> 
>    Bishop Spong, author of Reclaiming the Bible for a Non-Religious 
> World and
> 
>    The problem of heaven
>    http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1970695
>    An argument against the rationality of desiring to go to heaven might
>    be put in the form of a trilemma: (1) any state of being that both
>    lasts eternally and preserves me as the person I am would be hellish
>    and therefore would not be a state of being that I could have any
>    reason to desire; (2) any state of being that lasts eternally and yet
>    fails to preserve my personhood by turning me into a non-person would
>    not be a state of being that I (qua person that I am) could have any
>    reason to desire; and (3) any state of being that lasts eternally and
>    yet fails to preserve my personhood by turning me into some other
>    person would not be a state of being that I (qua person that I am)
>    could have any reason to desire. This paper offers defenses of each of
>    the three horns of this trilemma and concludes that there is no
>    rationally compelling reason for any human being to desire to go to
>    heaven.
>    Steve Harrington
> 
> - Ignored:
> 
> 
> - Done.
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: steve har <stevehar11201 at gmail.com>
> To: dialogue-request at wedgeblade.net
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 10:47:21 -0600
> Subject: Fwd: The Problem of Heaven by Brian Ribeiro :: SSRN
> http://www.bookforum.com/blog/archive/20120109#entry8848
> 
> Why is religion still alive?
> 
> Bishop Spong, author of Reclaiming the Bible for a Non-Religious World 
> and
> 
> The problem of heaven
> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1970695
> An argument against the rationality of desiring to go to heaven might 
> be put in the form of a trilemma: (1) any state of being that both 
> lasts eternally and preserves me as the person I am would be hellish 
> and therefore would not be a state of being that I could have any 
> reason to desire; (2) any state of being that lasts eternally and yet 
> fails to preserve my personhood by turning me into a non-person would 
> not be a state of being that I (qua person that I am) could have any 
> reason to desire; and (3) any state of being that lasts eternally and 
> yet fails to preserve my personhood by turning me into some other 
> person would not be a state of being that I (qua person that I am) 
> could have any reason to desire. This paper offers defenses of each of 
> the three horns of this trilemma and concludes that there is no 
> rationally compelling reason for any human being to desire to go to 
> heaven.
> 
> 
> Steve Harrington
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Steve Harrington
> 
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