[Dialogue] Who are you in the current counter-revolution?

James Wiegel jfwiegel at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 1 18:05:59 EST 2012


Today, our world is rife with social pioneering, and you miss most of it so long as you draw the line at the edge of this or that country and don't "put our arms 'round the earth"  At the same time the state of institutions is worrisome, not just nation states, but religious bodies and large corporations as well.  My life depends so much on them  Here is another voice . . .
http://sojo.net/blogs/2012/02/29/christopher-hitchens-diana-butler-bass-and-third-great-awakening#.T095KB28zKI.facebook 

Jim Wiegel



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--- On Thu, 3/1/12, steve har <stevehar11201 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: steve har <stevehar11201 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Dialogue] Who are you in the current counter-revolution?
To: dialogue at wedgeblade.net
Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 7:31 AM

We learned this week that U.S. Catholics support President Barack
Obama’s Feb. 10 compromise on contraception in almost identical
numbers to the population as a whole. Many of those sticking with the
Catholic bishops in opposition are evangelical Protestants.

During the 1928 presidential campaign, nutty right-wing Protestants
claimed that Al Smith, the first Catholic nominated for president by a
major party, was planning to extend New York’s Holland Tunnel all the
way to the Vatican.

 Today’s tunnel would run from the Vatican to a suburban Pentecostal
megachurch. Historians are rubbing their eyes in wonder that the
spiritual and political descendants of Protestants who founded the
Know Nothing Party in the 1850s on anti-Papist ideas — who hassled not
just Al Smith but also John F. Kennedy for supposed ties to Rome — are
now embracing Catholics. Rick Santorum was recently greeted at Oral
Roberts University by an enthusiastic crowd of 4,000.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2012/02/republicans_are_unprotected_on035487.php

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If you look at those models that Jim Wiegel drew up at the San Antonio
meeting last year
http://2012gatheringminds.pbworks.com/w/page/38908833/San%20Antonio%2050th%20Celebration%20Workshop
...the interesting question remains: where to stand in this
revolution? What's moral?
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 In a counter-reformation cultural revolution like the one we seem to
be traveling in,  just who is the establishment, the dis-establishment
and the trans-establishment? What would Bonehoeffer and HR Neibuhr say
again? Who are the social pioneers?

Wondering how Mathews would teach CS1 when there is reactionary energy
for non-scientific, non-secular, and not-city values.

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Seems like finding a place to stand like a social pioneer these days
needs both the humor of  Bill Maher and the hard-hat energy of Saul
Alinsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5HxUeoQa8s

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