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MOVIE CONVERSATION: GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ST. MATTHEW

Oct. 2, 1971

NSV Course

1. WERE YOU IMPRESSED BY THE MOVIE?

Not unqualifiedly so

2. WHAT THINGS DIDN'T YOU LIKE? WHAT OFFENDED YOU?

Walking on the water

Cock didn't crow

Gaps

Acting

Stone falling over

Earthquake

3. GIVE US AN INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARACTER OF JESUS

WHAT KIND OF A PERSON WAS JESUS?

Awesome character, not like the rest.

Came from somewhere else

Intense controlled passion

You'd have to talk about what he said.

He had no personalityeyesremotedistant.

He had a map of his life. He was always leading, looking over his shoulder.

Flippancy

Didn't give a damn about people

Brooding, sometimes very intentional. Sometimes emotional

and impertinence. Knew what he wanted to pull off.

Fragile man in his body

Awe

Audacious

Talked almost over his shoulder

Blunt, brooding person

4. WHAT PART OF MOVIE DID HE COME ACROSS MOST EFFECTIVELY IN YOUR

INTERPRETATION?

Radical intentionality

Mobbed with people

Gardenhis passion

Ire in temple scene

Crucial key to not being a personality is he was so true to the Bibleliteral

He never had a conversation. Usually it was a shout.

Would he was in was overwhelming

Never had to think up things to say

5. What scenes do you REMEMBER?

Woe to you.....

Conversation with Peter

Rich young ruler

John the Baptist

Walking past 4 men

Watch and pray

Dialogue with princes walking

It occurred to me 3/4 of the way through that the director knew what he was doing.

YOU MENTIONED HE HAD AWE ABOUT HIM. EXPLAIN

eyes face sense of inevitability

remoteness voice

like he wasn't there expression on people's faces

WHEN WERE YOU AWARE OF THE FIRST AWE DID YOU FIRST SENSE IT?

baptism never exhibited human insecurity

WAS THERE A CLIMAX IN THE PRESENTATION OF JESUS AS HE MOVED?

A CLIMACTIC MOMENT?

There was no character development

8. THAT WAS A PLAY. WHAT WAS THAT DIRECTOR SAYING?

Dealt almost exclusively with hypocrisy saying it does not have to do with being good people

Here's a word about lifejust the way it iswhether you like it or not.

If you have eyes to see, look; if ears to hear, hear.

Backdropworld of authentic violence

Establishment got him in the end

9. WHAT WAS IT? HOW WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE IT?

noncharacter study of transestablishment man

disconnected episodes

someone reading the Bible

newsreel

review

long sermon with a little acting

cartoon

the gospel was an invention of a new art form . Kerygmatic flicker

10. YOU'VE MENTIONED THE OTHER WORLD. A LOST WORLD. It's beginning to show itself. It's in the midst of the world about us, but different world. There are happenings in that world. It has a small gate. A narrow way. Those who have beheld it have said it's the real world. I suppose it's always a rocking experience. What DID HE GET ACROSS TO YOU ABOUT THE OTHER WORLD? If you're going to fool with that watch the words, doings, style. WHAT DID HE SEE THAT OTHERS DID NOT SEE?

WHAT DID HE SEE THAT APPARENTLY ALL THOSE WALLING AROUND WITH HIM

DIDN'T SEE. WHAT WAS THAT CONSTANT ON THE GO?

it drives you and holds you that you are never in this world

it is a source of power

it is a source of assurance

from the time he came out of the womb till the tomb he is a world of prayer

whatever it is, once you see it, it is obvious

don't care about riches, family, friends, or life

there are no virtues, nothing moral about it.

11. WHAT ELSE?

you have to be very committed, iron discipline

many are ca1led. Few are chosen

conveyed sense of urgencythere was a limited amount of time

incredible passion

pain for this world

abrupt

never dragged anyone in

demanded from others

didn't care about individuals

ability to do things people of this world can't do

changes people physically, and from being a hypocrite

changes the people from whom they were

always spoke the way it is

passion. life brimming. Wherever you are; in there the indicative is passion

you see yourself as blessed

you see relationship between the whole universe. The lilies going on are the same as clothes

no rational process to Godimmediate access

you see that situations are blessed that no one else sees

nobodynothing can get to you

you speak with authority

squeezes you out of this world to be present in the next world

aware of your role

no self depreciation about being in the other world

HOW WERE YOU ADDRESSED BY THE MOVIE?

determined by his bringing it off

same enemy in both worldsSatan

radical intentionality

always giving out, only once taking inin the Garden

SUMMER '72

MOVIE CONVERSATION: The Gospel According to St. Matthew

CONTEXT

This conversation is intended to enable the group to objectify its experience of the movie and appropriate the image of Jesus as the man from the other world rather than a personality. The conversation should serve as a helpful introduction to the words of Jesus and the other world. It begins with an initial spin designed to release the group to participate and to share impressionistic data on the style of the man from the other world.

INITIAL

SPIN

1. Were you impressed by the movie?

2. What things didn't you like? What offended you?

3. In a phrase, what kind of person was Jesus?

4. In which scenes did he come across most effectively in your interpretation?

OBJECTIVE
5. What other scenes do you remember?

REFLECTIVE
6. Were you aware of awe in the movie? Where did you first sense it?

7. Has there a climax in the presentation of Jesus as he moved? A climactic moment?

INTERPRETIVE

KEY QUESTION

That was a play. What was the directorsaying? How would you categorize it?

9. We've mentioned the other world. A lost world. It's beginning to show itself. It's in the midst of the world about us, but a different world. There are happenings in that world. It has a small gate. A narrow way. Those who have beheld it said it's the real world. I suppose it's always a rocking experience.

What did he get across to you about the other world? If you're going to fool with that, watch the words, doings, style.

10. What did he see that others did not see? (get out long list)

11. How were you addressed by the movie?

CONTEXT	This conversation is intended to enable the group to objectify its experience of the movie and appropriate the image of Jesus as the man from the other world rather than a personality. The conversation should serve as a helpful introduction to the words of Jesus and the other world. It begins with an initial spin designed to release the group to participate and to share impressionistic data on the style of the man from the other world.
INITIAL SPIN	1. Were you impressed by the movie? 2. What things didn't you like? What offended you? 3. In a phrase, what kind of person was Jesus? 4. In which scenes did he come across most effectively in your interpretation?
OBJECTIVE	5. What other scenes do you remember?
REFLECTIVE	6. Were you aware of awe in the movie? Where did you first sense it? 7. Has there a climax in the presentation of Jesus as he moved? A climactic moment?
INTERPRETIVE KEY QUESTION	That was a play. What was the directorsaying? How would you categorize it? 9. We've mentioned the other world. A lost world. It's beginning to show itself. It's in the midst of the world about us, but a different world. There are happenings in that world. It has a small gate. A narrow way. Those who have beheld it said it's the real world. I suppose it's always a rocking experience. What did he get across to you about the other world? If you're going to fool with that, watch the words, doings, style. 10. What did he see that others did not see? (get out long list) 11. How were you addressed by the movie?