[Oe List ...] Gandhi and Non-violence

Ellen & David Rebstock grapevin at comcast.net
Fri Aug 18 10:56:56 EST 2006


Larry,

I'm frustrated by my inability to communicate what I'm trying to find. It has been easy getting the words as we pronounce them.  The words were in the Global Council songbook once I spelled the title correctly (as my wife easily pointed out) wives do that as you know) What I would really like to find out is the meaning of the words in the song and what it means to Indians.  Thanks for your help.

Dave Rebstock
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  Dear All

  Here is the original words in the songbook a picture in Hindi and another transliteration I got off the Internet.

  With respect, Larry

  Ellen & David Rebstock wrote: 
    Our Sonoma County Network of Spiritual Progressives held a program recently with a presentation by Michael Nagler.  He is a professor at UC Berkeley with a course on Non-violence.  He introduced his topic "Confessions of a Social Activist" by saying there are two hopeful events that he says may increase the awareness level as to the role of non-violence in bringing about Peace in the world.  First, most people don't realize that 9-11 this year is exactly the 100 yr anniversary to the day of the Birth of Satyagraha.  Mahatma Gandhi and his followers launched the first campaign of Satyagraha at a meeting in the Empire Theatre in Johannesburg on 9/11/1906.  Satyagraha was Gandhi's method of active resistance based on the principles of courage, non-violence, and truth.  Two time-changing events targeted similarly but in totally dissimilar ways happened on the same date 9/11/2001 and 9/11/1906 revealing the ultimate choice between violence and non-violence.  9/11/1906 is the day of the Birth of Satyagraha, breaking of the vicious cycle of 'an eye for an eye'.  Nagler encouraged and stated that many groups and organizations will be showing the movie "Gandhi" on or around 911.  We are showing it at our Saturday Night at the Movies at our church on September 9.

    Secondly, the second event or happening Nagler highlighted is The Declaration of Peace.  Thousands of people are signing the Declaration of Peace on info at declarationofpeace.org   On that web site you can sign the Declaration and also volunteer for non-violent training at locations around the country and participate in nonviolent action to declare peace at the U.S. Capitol and in cities and towns across the US beginning between September 21-28  just days before Congress adjourns for the fall elections.

    By the way I recall that at the end of the movie when we all went over to see the movie Gandhi at the Uptown Theatre in Chicago in 1982 the song played at the end during the credits was Nagapati etc. etc. I thought we had it in one of our song books and cannot find it.  I would like to get a copy of the words in Hindi and if possible a translation into English.  Does anyone have either and could forward them to me or put them on the Dialogue.

    Dave Rebstock
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